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Old May 25th, 2009, 10:24 PM   #1
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Default Folding a Jeep's windshield on public roads.

Does anyone know what the laws are regarding this? I just dropped the windshield on my JK for the first time today on my property, and it was a ton of fun. I was wondering if it was legal to drive it on the street with it folded in michigan.

I still have an external rear view mirror (drivers side), and of course eye protection.


I was planning on leaving it down for a while when the weather stays nice to drive to work and back (10 minutes and 35mph or below the whole way). But I havent been able to get a solid answer on the subject, even from local cops. Any links to the actual code would be great too (to keep a copy of the law in my glove box).





And in case anyone was wondering......this aint no CJ. It was a GIANT PITA to put this thing up/ down. Hence why when I put it down again, I want to leave it like that for a while.
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Old May 25th, 2009, 10:26 PM   #2
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This has been covered before. You need DOT eye protection.
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Old May 25th, 2009, 10:28 PM   #3
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This has been covered before. You need DOT eye protection.
Yeah...I figured its been beat to death, but I couldnt find anything in the search.

Do you have a link to the code?
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Old May 25th, 2009, 10:33 PM   #4
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As long as you have some sort of eye protection on, the cops will leave you alone. Don't forget eye protection for all passengers.
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I saw a guy driving down I75 one day in a ramcharger that looked like it had been rolled, all the windows were broken out including windshield and he was wearing a full faced motor cycle helmet. He drove past a Grand Blanc Cop and didn't get pulled over. Just thought I'd bring that up cause it was hilarious.
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Not legal even with eye protection.

P.S. I used to stop a pimp in a Ford Granada all the time for driving with no windshield and wearing goggles. I wrote him 17 tickets in 3 years. After twice in court he just paid the fine and kept driving. It would have been cheaper to get a windshield. The "girls" probably just had to work a bit harder to pay all his fines.
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Not legal even with eye protection.

P.S. I used to stop a pimp in a Ford Granada all the time for driving with no windshield and wearing goggles. I wrote him 17 tickets in 3 years. After twice in court he just paid the fine and kept driving. It would have been cheaper to get a windshield. The "girls" probably just had to work a bit harder to pay all his fines.
Would you happen to have the law that sites that even with DOT approved eye protection that it is illegal?
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Not legal even with eye protection.

P.S. I used to stop a pimp in a Ford Granada all the time for driving with no windshield and wearing goggles. I wrote him 17 tickets in 3 years. After twice in court he just paid the fine and kept driving. It would have been cheaper to get a windshield. The "girls" probably just had to work a bit harder to pay all his fines.
Whats the language in the code? Does it say a vehicle needs a wind barrier of some kind, or does it say it just needs to be equipped with a windshield? Because my windshield is still attached and being used as it was designed.
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Old May 25th, 2009, 10:54 PM   #10
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Would you happen to have the law that sites that even with DOT approved eye protection that it is illegal?

257.708a Windshields; goggles, eyeglasses, or face shields.

Sec. 708a.

A motor vehicle shall not be operated on the public highways of this state unless it is equipped with a windshield of sufficient dimensions to protect the driver and occupants from insects, other airborne objects, and highway surface water and debris, when the motor vehicle is moving forward. A farm tractor, other implement of husbandry, and historic vehicles as defined in section 803a are exempt from this section. When a motorcycle operated on the public highways of this state in excess of 35 miles per hour is not equipped with a windshield, the operator shall wear goggles with transparent lenses or a transparent face shield or eyeglasses, which goggles, eyeglasses, or face shield shall be of shatter resistant material and of sufficient size to protect his eyes against insects, other airborne material, and highway surface water and debris.
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How do motorcycle riders get away without having a windshield?
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[QUOTE=Hombre;1697327]Not legal even with eye protection.

Very true the eye protection deal is for motor cycles only.
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Old May 25th, 2009, 10:57 PM   #13
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However, if your Jeep is old enough to classify as an historic vehicle under 257.803a you can get away without having a windshield.
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Well I think it also applies as the fact that cars and trucks have to have functional windshield wipers as well. Believe me I've been down this road why I ride around like this...

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However, if your Jeep is old enough to classify as an historic vehicle under 257.803a you can get away without having a windshield.
I guess Ill have to wait 30 years....



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257.708a Windshields; goggles, eyeglasses, or face shields.

Sec. 708a.

A motor vehicle shall not be operated on the public highways of this state unless it is equipped with a windshield of sufficient dimensions...
Wait......whats the definition of a "public highway"?


My plan is to only use it on low traffic side roads, and never on anything over 45mph.
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then slap a tractor triangle on the back of it and go amish style
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Old May 25th, 2009, 11:14 PM   #18
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Wait......whats the definition of a "public highway"?


My plan is to only use it on low traffic side roads, and never on anything over 45mph.
Any road, street or highway or any other place generally accessible to the public (frozen lake, parking lot, alley, etc.)

Like I said, illegal. Sorry.
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then slap a tractor triangle on the back of it and go amish style
i am pretty sure thats not legal either
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then slap a tractor triangle on the back of it and go amish style
Did the Amish make your windshield or is that thing from an armoured car?
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