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Old May 20th, 2009, 06:08 PM   #41
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I was raised as a catholic, and I did everything how I was told, but when I started discovering other options, I pretty much never went back.

I'm not "against" the church, or religion, and if it makes certain people happier, or they lead a better life, then that is awesome. It's just not for me.
word. When i was younger a series of horrible event happened in my life and the lives of my family. if that was part of gods plan then fukc that rotten piece of shit. no one should have to suffer the things me and mine did.
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Old May 20th, 2009, 06:09 PM   #42
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I was also raised Catholic, but I walked away earlier than you did, like 15 years old. But a few years later I "heard" him call me by name, and should you find the same thing happen to you, watch out!
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word. When i was younger a series of horrible event happened in my life and the lives of my family. if that was part of gods plan then fukc that rotten piece of shit. no one should have to suffer the things me and mine did.
That didn't help either. My grandma who's life was the church (literally) discovered she had brain cancer when she passed out what day weeding the flower bed, then she suffered for 5 months before she finally passed away.
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I was also raised Catholic, but I walked away earlier than you did, like 15 years old. But a few years later I "heard" him call me by name, and should you find the same thing happen to you, watch out!

Truth is truth, lies are lies. It is not about whether someone gets a warm fuzzy, it is about whether God exists or if we are on our own in this world. If God DOES exist, then everything changes. If God does NOT exist, than everything changes. I surely do not want to live for a lie, and believe some crap about this life and this world.

So what exactly do you do with Jesus again? Do you say he was not God, and if so, what logical reasoning are you using?
I have to go cut the grass, I'll continue this later on a colder, more cloudy day.
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Why can't religion and evolution exist? I believe in both. I feel that the Bible is a bastardization of what really happend or complete lies in other examples. The Bible is a book written by men and men can be manipulative liars. The Bible contains excellent information on how to be a good person and help your fellow human being. It also contains ALOT of hateful information ment to intimidate and control.

If you insist on being a Bible thumper, live your life like the Bible says, verbatum. Otherwise, you are cherry picking hypocrite that is only following the teachings of the Bible as it suits your needs.
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man created god as a tool to rule other men.
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man created god as a tool to rule other men.

Steveo, I agree with you 99.99%. For some reason I still believe in a supream being of some type. I don't know why, I just do.

As you read in my earlier post, I feel the words in the Bible have been highly manipulated to benefit the writer.
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Steveo, I agree with you 99.99%. For some reason I still believe in a supream being of some type. I don't know why, I just do.

As you read in my earlier post, I feel the words in the Bible have been highly manipulated to benefit the writer.

there you go.

I like to believe there are beings out there that are "supreme" to humans. I think that if we are the pinnacle of life then the universe is a pretty sad place. in the bible it says man was created in gods image, well imo its the other way around. the god the bible portrays sounds more like hitler than a benevolent supreme creator.
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Steveo, I agree with you 99.99%. For some reason I still believe in a supream being of some type. I don't know why, I just do.

As you read in my earlier post, I feel the words in the Bible have been highly manipulated to benefit the writer.
Because the thought of "this is it" is too hard for most to swallow.
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I find this thread humorous... I'm suprized I read it considering I choose not to get involved in religious debates.

good idea CC, I'm going to mow the lawn.
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That didn't help either. My grandma who's life was the church (literally) discovered she had brain cancer when she passed out what day weeding the flower bed, then she suffered for 5 months before she finally passed away.

Thats to bad, you should have waived your I believe in god magic rabbits foot....

Oh it dosen't work that way, I forgot.....
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word. When i was younger a series of horrible event happened in my life and the lives of my family. if that was part of gods plan then fukc that rotten piece of shit. no one should have to suffer the things me and mine did.


Wiat wait, I have to dab the tears from my eye's to keep reading....

Get the magic rabbit foot out and waive it everything will be fine....

Nope nope nope thats not it, remember complacent younger generation, you have reared up your head again......Everthing is somebody elses fault.

You go union guy.
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toes, i hope you get cancer and rot from the inside out like my grandmother did. i dont blame god, but you would think that he would help his faithful servants. you would think that after years of praying for intervention while watching the people you love get hurt and suffer from the actions of others that this divine all knowing all seeing supreme being would at least offer some form of support. but he doesnt, cause he does not exist. so go fukc yourself you rotten cocksucker.

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Let's see, it isn't April 1st is it?

...human-like nails instead of claws, and opposable big toes...

I noticed the other day my dog has two round eyeballs that she sees out of. Then I looked in the mirror and noticed that I also have two eyeballs. I think I actually might be descended from a canine of some kind.
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i will call BS x2
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Hey I figured something out, all the muts that listen to I found the missing link, I call it Archaeoraptor Liaoningensis (bullshit cica 1999) or Piltdownman (bullshit 1912) or Hesperopithecus (bullshit 1922) or Jav man (bullshit 1891)
or Orce man(bullshit 1982) or Neanderthalman (bullshit 1908) or Lucy, Pekin man, Austrlopithecenes.

Not to forget Richard Leakeys faked embryonic drawnings, one of Darwins foundations for his therory.

The only thing better than that is Obama.....
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toes, i hope you get cancer and rot from the inside out like my grandmother did. i dont blame god, but you would think that he would help his faithful servants. you would think that after years of praying for intervention while watching the people you love get hurt and suffer from the actions of others that this divine all knowing all seeing supreme being would at least offer some form of support. but he doesnt, cause he does not exist. so go fukc yourself you rotten cocksucker.

Your a liar, You blame God because things don't or haven't gone the way YOU think they should.
Your a complacent litlle bitch. Everything is everbody elses fault because you don't get your own way. Note this qoute from you own crying ass "watching the people you love suffer from the actions of others" it's gotta be some one elses fault, always, without question....LMFAO
Not only are you a liar but your a dumbass as well, why would you think a pin head pea brain like yourself would have a clue as to what an all knowing supreme being, as you put it, has instore or his intentions are....again Im laughing so hard my side is hurting....
I don't want to see you get cancer, but I sure would like to see you get your head screwed on straight....
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Your a liar, You blame God because things don't or haven't gone the way YOU think they should.
Your a complacent litlle bitch. Everything is everbody elses fault because you don't get your own way. Note this qoute from you own crying ass "watching the people you love suffer from the actions of others" it's gotta be some one elses fault, always, without question....LMFAO
Not only are you a liar but your a dumbass as well, why would you think a pin head pea brain like yourself would have a clue as to what an all knowing supreme being, as you put it, has instore or his intentions are....again Im laughing so hard my side is hurting....
I don't want to see you get cancer, but I sure would like to see you get your head screwed on straight....
fuck you toes. i hope there is a god and there is a hell, cause you deserve to roast there forever.
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