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Old April 5th, 2009, 09:51 AM   #1
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Lets get rid of the Nukes . . . or so Barry says

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PRAGUE Declaring it "matters to all people everywhere," President Barack Obama promised on Sunday to lead the world into a nuclear-free future, giving a hawkish edge to a peacenik pursuit even as North Korea upstaged him with the launch of a long-range rocket that theoretically could carry a warhead.

Obama made his pledge before 20,000 flag-waving Czechs outside the gates of picturesque Prague Castle. He chose a nation that peacefully threw off communism and helped topple nuclear power Soviet Union as the backdrop for presenting an ambitious plan to stop the global spread of dangerous weapons.

"Let us honor our past by reaching for a better future," Obama said.

Shifting on an eight-day European trip from the economic crisis to the war in Afghanistan and now nuclear capabilities, Obama said his goal of "a world without nuclear weapons" won't be reached soon, "perhaps not in my lifetime."

But he said the United States, with one of the world's largest arsenals and the only nation to have used an atomic bomb, has a "moral responsibility" to start taking steps now.

It is not only a lofty goal. Gary Samore, Obama's arms control coordinator, said the plan has a strategic aim: to give the U.S. extra leverage in opposing the pursuit of nuclear arms in adversarial countries such as North Korea and Iran. "We are trying to seek the moral high ground," Samore said.

Devoting an entire speech to the longtime "no nukes" cause of the political left is more popular in Europe than in the United States. Obama signaled he would allow not allow America to become more vulnerable, saying that surrendering nuclear weapons must be a global all-for-one, or not-at-all, endeavor.

"Make no mistake: As long as these weapons exist, we will maintain a safe, secure and effective arsenal to deter any adversary, and guarantee that defense to our allies," he said.

He also gave his most unequivocal pledge yet to proceed with a missile defense system in Europe while Iran pursues nuclear weapons, as the West alleges. That shield is to be based in the Czech Republic and Poland. Those countries are on Russia's doorstep, and the move has contributed to a significant decline in U.S.-Russia relations.

In the interest of resetting ties with Moscow, Obama previously had appeared to soft-pedal his support for the Bush-era shield proposal. But he adopted a different tone in Prague.

"As long as the threat from Iran persists, we will go forward with a missile defense system that is cost-effective and proven," Obama said, earning cheers from the crowd.

This was in part a message to Russia, which has balked at using its influence to press Iran to drop its nuclear pursuits.

North Korea's launch, in the works for weeks, could not have been better timed to achieve the reclusive communist country's goal of grabbing attention.

An aide awoke Obama in his Prague hotel room to tell him of the launch in the early morning hours here. By lunchtime, the president had addressed it publicly nearly half a dozen times.

North Korea claimed it had sent up a satellite, not a missile. The West says it hardly matters because such a rocket presumably could carry a warhead into Japanese, South Korea or even U.S. airspace. North Korea declared the launch a success, saying an experimental communications satellite reached outer space. But the U.S. military said "no object entered orbit."

Obama said the North Korean action served only to underscore the need for the actions he outlined.

"Rules must be binding," he said. "Violations must be punished. Words must mean something."

"Now is the time for a strong international response," he said.

He offered few details of how he would accomplish his larger goal, which has eluded presidents and foreign policy lions, including Ronald Reagan, George Shultz and Henry Kissinger.

Obama acknowledged this. "In a strange turn of history," he said, "the threat of global nuclear war has gone down, but the risk of a nuclear attack has gone up."

To combat the risk from countries, and possibly terrorists, with nuclear weapons, Obama said he would:

_"immediately and aggressively" seek ratification of the Comprehensive Nuclear Test-Ban Treaty, which he may not get. Signed by former President Bill Clinton, it was rejected by the Senate in 1999. Overall, 140 nations have ratified the ban. But they include only 35 of the 44 states that possess nuclear technology, and the United States is the most prominent holdout.

_host a summit within the next year on nuclear weapons.

_undertake a new international effort to secure all vulnerable nuclear material worldwide within four years.

_try to strengthen the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty by providing more resources and authority for international inspections and mandating "real and immediate consequences" for countries that violate the treaty.

_pursue by the end of the year a new treaty with Russia to reduce the two nations' nuclear arsenals.

_seek a new international treaty that verifiably ends the production of fissile materials intended for use in state nuclear weapons.

_build a new framework for civil nuclear cooperation, including an international fuel bank, so countries can access peaceful power without increasing the risks of proliferation.

Obama spoke after conferring with Czech leaders, including Prime Minister Mirek Topolanek, just two weeks after his government collapsed. Topolanek is remaining in office until President Vaclav Klaus names a replacement. Obama also participated Sunday in a hastily arranged U.S.-EU summit; the Czech Republic holds the rotating presidency of the European Union.

As he has throughout the trip, Obama emphasized priorities that closely match Europe's, such as promising to tackle climate change. But he had requests as well. He asked European nations to accept detainees from the Guantanamo Bay prison, which he has ordered closed, and to bring in Turkey as a member of the European Union to send a positive signal to the Muslim world.

After a chat with playwright and former Czech president Vaclav Havel, the leader of the 1989 Velvet Revolution, Obama looked ahead to his next stop, Turkey.

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Old April 5th, 2009, 02:42 PM   #2
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Old April 5th, 2009, 04:37 PM   #3
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Military strength and nuclear capability deters war. That is something that liberal asshats just cannot understand. This asshole President of ours is going to make us the weaklings of the world. Everything that the country did during WWII to preserve our safety and the security of the free world is for nothing and has been forgotten by the liberals.

The 20th century was the "American century" and the 21st century belongs to China.
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Old April 5th, 2009, 04:41 PM   #4
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so, whats going to change? china pretty much makes 80% of everything we buy, and well, oboma is showing how pink he really is...
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Old April 5th, 2009, 04:42 PM   #5
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Old April 5th, 2009, 05:42 PM   #6
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I'm thinking getting rid of nukes is a good idea....

That way Oblabla could surrender the country faster....
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Old April 5th, 2009, 06:06 PM   #7
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Not surprising.

The anti-nuclear weapons sentiment in Europe is well-known and deeply-held - something to do with living on what would've been "ground zero" of a NATO/Soviet bloc collision.

Classic Obama - he so craves attention and approval that he plays directly to a local emotional soft point with a speech that (upon close examination) says or promises nothing substantive. I'm sure it was well-received, feeding his "daddy skipped out early and mommy didn't pay attention to me" personality...
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Old April 5th, 2009, 06:11 PM   #8
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Not surprising.

The anti-nuclear weapons sentiment in Europe is well-known and deeply-held - something to do with living on what would've been "ground zero" of a NATO/Soviet bloc collision.

Classic Obama - he so craves attention and approval that he plays directly to a local emotional soft point with a speech that (upon close examination) says or promises nothing substantive. I'm sure it was well-received, feeding his "daddy skipped out early and mommy didn't pay attention to me" personality...
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Old April 6th, 2009, 01:07 PM   #9
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Not surprising.

The anti-nuclear weapons sentiment in Europe is well-known and deeply-held - something to do with living on what would've been "ground zero" of a NATO/Soviet bloc collision.

Classic Obama - he so craves attention and approval that he plays directly to a local emotional soft point with a speech that (upon close examination) says or promises nothing substantive. I'm sure it was well-received, feeding his "daddy skipped out early and mommy didn't pay attention to me" personality...
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Old April 6th, 2009, 02:17 PM   #10
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Old April 6th, 2009, 02:33 PM   #11
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Not surprising.

The anti-nuclear weapons sentiment in Europe is well-known and deeply-held - something to do with living on what would've been "ground zero" of a NATO/Soviet bloc collision.

Classic Obama - he so craves attention and approval that he plays directly to a local emotional soft point with a speech that (upon close examination) says or promises nothing substantive. I'm sure it was well-received, feeding his "daddy skipped out early and mommy didn't pay attention to me" personality...

RIght on the head!
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Old April 6th, 2009, 11:39 PM   #12
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"We are trying to seek the moral high ground," Samore said.
i thought Liberals didn't believe in morals?
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Old April 7th, 2009, 01:33 PM   #13
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It's like he's still fucking campaigning
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Old April 7th, 2009, 01:40 PM   #14
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It's like he's still fucking campaigning
propaganda.

lenin won over a population that had 60% or more illiteracy rate in rural areas, and 40% illiteracy rate in urban regions with simple propaganda.
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Old April 7th, 2009, 02:45 PM   #15
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Oblabla say's to the military in Iraq, on his surprise visit, the Iraqi's have to fend for themselves, read between the lines, I want to cut the military so we aren't going forward with any new air technology, we are getting rid of our nukes, we are sending all you Bush loving soliders home and kicking you out of the downsized military, we are going to do what the U.N. say's to do (normally nothing), and we are going to put our military on par with everyone else.
After all we are now socialist so we have to make everthing even....

Not to worry, Oblabla has already shown his strong side, afterall he did come right out and say he didn't want N Korea to launch that missle....

Worked like a charm....
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