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Old March 22nd, 2009, 10:25 PM   #1
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MI State Sovereignty act.

Campaign for Liberty here in MI is holding a caller support bomb on Monday to get 2009 Senate Concurrent Resolution 4 out of committee (Introduced by Sen. Bruce Patterson (R) on March 3, 2009, to affirm Michigan’s sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not enumerated and granted to the federal government.
Referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee on March 3, 2009.)

If your from MI and support this please call your State reps. Here's a link to find them and their number
http://www.capwiz.com/nra/dbq/officials/
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Old March 23rd, 2009, 06:19 AM   #2
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I seem to remember some states circa December 20, 1860 declaring sovereignty from the federal government and trying to secede from the union. From what I recall, it didn't work in their favor.

Review http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/dat...ay.cfm?HHID=84 for a bit of what I'm referring to.
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Old March 23rd, 2009, 08:46 AM   #3
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I post the whole resolution there is nothing in it about seceding. But the feds. or overstepping bounds. It could get passed and do something or nothing who knows.

Amendment 10 - Powers of the States and People. Ratified 12/15/1791.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people
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Old March 23rd, 2009, 09:21 AM   #4
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I seem to remember some states circa December 20, 1860 declaring sovereignty from the federal government and trying to secede from the union. From what I recall, it didn't work in their favor.
Good thing that's not what they're doing.
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Old March 23rd, 2009, 03:35 PM   #5
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Here's a link to Uncle Ted Nugent talking about the same thing down in Texas.

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content...wacnugent.html



Sunday, March 15, 2009

You may have noticed I am a big fan of rugged individualism, self-reliance, individual freedoms, liberty, self-determination and defiance — heavy on the defiance.

These uniquely American characteristics course through our veins and pulse in our genes, gifts from our amazing, defiant forefathers.

They sailed across an unknown ocean, to an unknown land, to establish a country free of kings and tyrants.

In securing our freedom, they wrote a constitution that limited the power of the federal government.

They knew even back then that absolute power corrupts absolutely.


Of the Bill of Rights, the 10th Amendment says this: Powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved for the states, respectively, or to the people.

Now, I am no lawyer or windbag lawmaker. But I find those words easy to understand.

You need not be a constitutional scholar to know the 10th Amendment was written to limit the abusive growth of power by the federal government.

As Thomas Jefferson stated, “The States should be left to do whatever acts they can do as well as the federal government.”

The current gang of political punks, scoundrels and crooks in Washington, D.C., is not worthy to stand in Jefferson’s shadow.

In an attempt to weaken the roles and responsibilities of the states, Fedzilla has worked tirelessly over the years to destroy the 10th Amendment. Fed interlopers have argued that the Commerce Clause of the Constitution is more important and relevant than the 10th Amendment.

We have stood by as Fedzilla has grown exponentially and has become a repressive force in every facet of our lives.

But there is hope for the rights of states to determine their own destinies.

Texas, under the leadership of the good Gov. Rick Perry, is joining 16 other states that have already made their defiant, sovereign statement of autonomy, appropriately.

They have now evoked the 10th Amendment to put the brakes on Emperor Obama’s mob-like fiscal mandates, attempting to force states to accept the so-called stimulus money and thereby become slaves to Fedzilla control.

With unprecedented gluttony, Emperor Obama is bankrupting the future of our children and grandchildren.

Perry is doing the right thing. For of all the states, Texas must never allow itself to become a slave to Washington, D.C.

Instead, we Texans must chart our own economic destiny and recovery by refusing the stimulus money, freezing state spending, cutting state taxes across the board and offering tax incentives to existing and new businesses. Additionally, I urge the governor to immediately call a conference of Texas business leaders and request they develop a Texas economic road map for recovery. Let Texas lead the way.

Tell Emperor Obama not to mess with Texas. Don’t tread on me.

In the spirit of the brave defenders who gave birth to Texas by giving their lives at the Alamo, I say “Remember the 10th Amendment.”
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Old March 23rd, 2009, 09:47 PM   #6
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3stratman Funny you bring up the Stimulus plan as British debt was a reason behind the Revolutionary war. As Thomas Paine put it in Common Sense in 1776

"As parents, we can have no joy, knowing this government is not sufficiently lasting to ensure anything which we may bequeath to posterity: And by a plain method of argument, as we are running the next generation into debt, we ought to do the work of it, otherwise we use them meanly and pitifully. In order to discover the line of our duty rightly, we should take our children in our hand, and fix our station a few years farther into life;"
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Old March 25th, 2009, 12:09 PM   #7
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I seem to remember some states circa December 20, 1860 declaring sovereignty from the federal government and trying to secede from the union. From what I recall, it didn't work in their favor.

Review http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/dat...ay.cfm?HHID=84 for a bit of what I'm referring to.
The federal government has been overstepping its bounds ever since the above referenced disagreement.
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Old March 25th, 2009, 12:30 PM   #8
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The federal government has been overstepping its bounds ever since the above referenced disagreement.
I agree.
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Old March 25th, 2009, 01:12 PM   #9
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piss on obama and the boons farm administration.
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Old March 25th, 2009, 02:20 PM   #10
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The federal government has been overstepping its bounds ever since the above referenced disagreement.
Not saying I disagree there, just saying that last time a state (or several, as it turned out) decided to declare their sovereignty and the federal government challenged that claim, it didn't turn out well for the states involved.

We actually discussed this very topic in my government class, but sadly that was one of the classes I was only partially awake for.
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Old March 31st, 2009, 05:27 PM   #11
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The time is comming when we will have to act as our fourfathers did. I only hope we have enough people to stand up and do it. Its times like this im glad im a redneck Search the internet for a film called zieghgeist 3. If you can find it, copy and pass on
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Old April 1st, 2009, 07:43 AM   #12
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The time is comming when we will have to act as our fourfathers did. I only hope we have enough people to stand up and do it. Its times like this im glad im a redneck Search the internet for a film called zieghgeist 3. If you can find it, copy and pass on
Were you friends with Timothy McVeigh?
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Old April 1st, 2009, 07:56 AM   #13
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MI is waaaaay to Democrat to try anything like that. I would love to see it but . . . .

Got this yesterday BTW

Michigan Tax Day Tea Party
With special guest Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher “Joe the Plumber”

Mark April 15th on your calendar to rally against out-of-control politicians.
Bring your family to Lansing to protest ever-increasing taxes and regulations on our freedoms.


Americans for Prosperity-Michigan has arranged for Joe “the Plumber” Wurzelbacher to speak at the rally. This is your opportunity to meet an ordinary man who was not afraid to publicly question a national politician.

What: Michigan Taxpayer Tea Party
When: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 – High Noon
Where: Capitol Steps, Capitol Avenue, Lansing, Michigan
Why: Protest out-of-control politicians who are borrowing against your great grandchildren’s yet-to-be earned income.

Please go to www.afpmi.org or www.taxpayerteaparty.com to learn more.

See you in Lansing!

Scott Hagerstrom
State Director
Americans for Prosperity

P.S. If you are in Mid-Michigan tonight, check out this free event:
Students for a Free Economy and the Michigan State Young Americans for Liberty will bring David Littmann to MSU to discuss the current economic crisis. Mr. Littmann is the senior economist with the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
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Old April 2nd, 2009, 06:36 AM   #14
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MI is waaaaay to Democrat to try anything like that. I would love to see it but . . . .

Got this yesterday BTW

Michigan Tax Day Tea Party
With special guest Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher “Joe the Plumber”

Mark April 15th on your calendar to rally against out-of-control politicians.
Bring your family to Lansing to protest ever-increasing taxes and regulations on our freedoms.


Americans for Prosperity-Michigan has arranged for Joe “the Plumber” Wurzelbacher to speak at the rally. This is your opportunity to meet an ordinary man who was not afraid to publicly question a national politician.

What: Michigan Taxpayer Tea Party
When: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 – High Noon
Where: Capitol Steps, Capitol Avenue, Lansing, Michigan
Why: Protest out-of-control politicians who are borrowing against your great grandchildren’s yet-to-be earned income.

Please go to www.afpmi.org or www.taxpayerteaparty.com to learn more.

See you in Lansing!

Scott Hagerstrom
State Director
Americans for Prosperity

P.S. If you are in Mid-Michigan tonight, check out this free event:
Students for a Free Economy and the Michigan State Young Americans for Liberty will bring David Littmann to MSU to discuss the current economic crisis. Mr. Littmann is the senior economist with the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
going to try to be there for this event, our government is shitting on us and we dont have to eat it and grin.
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Old April 2nd, 2009, 05:10 PM   #15
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going to try to be there for this event, our government is shitting on us and we dont have to eat it and grin.
Please Dont so up, its people like you who give honest protests, riots, and whitch hunts a bad name
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