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Old January 17th, 2009, 05:59 AM   #21
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since I worked for a two dealers over the course of 13 years I know a little. the law states you have 3 days to return ANY auto purchase in michigan even from a private sale. the law also states the vehicle in question has a 30 day grace on anything that says "As is no warrenty". so if it blows up in that 30 days the guy who sold it is responsable for it.
as for the jump title its illegal to sell a vehile without clear title and I would contact the state police, they can go much faster then the Secreaty of state and clear up the matter with a quick visit to the dealer if its fraud.
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Old January 17th, 2009, 08:37 AM   #22
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I'd like to see the laws on that Yetti. My understanding is, for a private seller, the seller must disclose any faults they know about, but other then that, it is buyer beware...I've never heard that a private seller must take back a car after 3 or 30 days, or at all, for that matter.

If that were the case, what would stop someone from buying a truck from me, taking it to the mounds for a couple days and beating the piss out of it, then blowing the engine, and forcing me to give back thier money? I would have to take them to court and prove that the failure was thier fault, which would be very tough to do, not to mention how much it would cost me.
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Old January 17th, 2009, 08:53 AM   #23
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I've done both. I bought a Ranger for my kid from a dealer. they said it was good to go! I got it home and she got stranded 2 days later. I called them up and said I had an issue and would they check it out. they gave me a price of $700+ to fix the problem. I laughed and said I guess you just bought that one back. they refunded my money and had no issue with it under the 3 day buyer protection law.

as for dealers fucking customers I saw one sell a guy a POS olds. he brought back to get some warrenty work done. the guy claimed he had been sold a powertrain warrenty with his car. needless to say he had not. and he had the car about a week. when it was all said and done he got his money back.

as for private seller deals I bought a ford crew cab from a guy in Ypsi. it was nice looking truck, but when I test drove it I never went on the highway. when I bought the truck I went to get on the highway and it wouldn't go over 45. come to find out it had dead cylinders. anyways before he could put the money in the bank I was on his door step. he had no issue giving my money back.
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Old January 17th, 2009, 09:06 AM   #24
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I've sold vehicles with known problems as parts cars trying to protect my ass. I've also done this with $300.00 beaters and put on the bill of sale that they have been sold for parts and should not be driven on the road. I don't know if what I was doing would help me but it did relay to the person buying the $300 vehicle that they are not buying a gem. I've also given 30 day "labor only" warranties with some cars that I've sold. These were older cars that I felt were reliable but still might have an issue. To make the buyer feel better about the purchase, I would provide this labor only warranty and I would get full asking price everytime.
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Old January 17th, 2009, 10:11 AM   #25
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I've done both. I bought a Ranger for my kid from a dealer. they said it was good to go! I got it home and she got stranded 2 days later. I called them up and said I had an issue and would they check it out. they gave me a price of $700+ to fix the problem. I laughed and said I guess you just bought that one back. they refunded my money and had no issue with it under the 3 day buyer protection law.

as for dealers fucking customers I saw one sell a guy a POS olds. he brought back to get some warrenty work done. the guy claimed he had been sold a powertrain warrenty with his car. needless to say he had not. and he had the car about a week. when it was all said and done he got his money back.

as for private seller deals I bought a ford crew cab from a guy in Ypsi. it was nice looking truck, but when I test drove it I never went on the highway. when I bought the truck I went to get on the highway and it wouldn't go over 45. come to find out it had dead cylinders. anyways before he could put the money in the bank I was on his door step. he had no issue giving my money back.

Maybe the fact that you look like you could pick the truck up and throw it through his window influenced him a little......


Last time I got screwed on a truck was in '94, and at that time there was no 3 day or 30 day anything. I bought a 93 Dodge pickup that turned out to have been a near total wreck- the doors had broken glass inside and a ton of bondo. I discovered this the day after I bought it when I was going to put some door speakers in. Meade Dodge basically told me to piss off, and several lawyers told me I was stuck with it.

(Oddly enough, it was a great running truck, I kept it for 5 years, sold it to a neighbor who drove it for another 7 years before selling it. Not one breakdown the whole time but it rusted out something terrible)
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Old January 17th, 2009, 10:14 AM   #26
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I bought a 1992 Ford f150 brand new with 7 miles on the clock. What a piece of shit! I tried to do the lemon law thing but that was a huge waste of time. I ended up trading that turd in on an older car that I had way fewer problems with.
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Old January 17th, 2009, 10:14 AM   #27
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I have taken a car back within the 3 days period, and the dealer wasn't happy about it, but admitted that they really had no choice in the matter. My sister in law and another friend of mine have done the same thing, so I know the law exists when dealing with dealerships, as is or not.
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