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Old January 9th, 2009, 06:27 PM   #1
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Default National Land Grab going on this weekend in DC

From this tread on Pirate. Land grab going on this weekend! http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=748961

Massive phone Blitz needed!

PLEASE HELP!!!

Another bullshit Wilderness Bill is coming down the pike
Call and oppose this thing!

(202) 224-3121

this is from the "Advocates for Access to Public Lands"

Harry Reid to Force Vote On Omnibus Land Grab This Weekend
The Omnibus Federal Land Grab Bill Number is now S. 22

Urgent Action Required
You must call your Senators immediately. They must be deluged with calls now at (202) 224-3121. Senators for MI are Carl Levin (202) 224-6221 & Debbie Stabenow (202) 224-4822.

You should also call your Congressman. All Congressmen may be called at (202) 225-3121. The bill will have to go back through the House if it passes the Senate. Ours are Dave Camp (Midland), John Conyers JR (Trenton), John Dingell (Dearborn), Vernon Ehlers (Grand Rapids), Pete Hoekstra (Holland), Dale Kildee (Flint), Carolyn Kilpatrick (Detroit), Joe Knollenberg (Farmington Hills), Sandy Levid (Roseville), Thaddeus McCotter (Livonia), Candice Miller (Shelby Twp.), Mike Rogers (Lansing), Bart Stupak (Alpena), Fred Upton (Kalamazoo) and Timothy Walberg (Jackson).

They must know in no uncertain terms that rural America opposes this massive Wilderness and land grab bill.
You must let your Senators and Congressman know you will hold them responsible for their vote on S. 22. This is the largest land grab in 20 years. They must know they will be held accountable.
Now is not the time to be locking up our resources when we need them to help rebuild our economy.

Please forward this message to as many people as possible as quickly as possible.

For more information on this bill see:
http://www.landrights.org/New%20Omni...151_E-mail.pdf



Looks like they are trying to slip this thru while all the attention is on the upcoming Inaugural festivities.
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Old January 10th, 2009, 08:27 PM   #2
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Anyone actually worried about this?
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Old January 10th, 2009, 08:47 PM   #3
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Thats been the problem all along, whos watching? nobody.
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Old January 10th, 2009, 10:23 PM   #4
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Thats been the problem all along, whos watching? nobody.
I hear you on that. Guess as long as they can web wheel, why worry? Leave it up to someone else to keep the trails open.
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calls placed sat am.
I think the ratio of traffic on this thread versus that of on the pub just reflects the apathy rampant in all aspects of society. My Yahoo home page looks like people magazine/entertainment tonight-all worthless fluff for a population wanting to be dumbed down and led like sheep.
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Old January 11th, 2009, 06:40 PM   #6
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As they take away land for our use, are you doing anything?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28605584/

WASHINGTON - In a rare Sunday session, the Senate advanced legislation that would set aside more than 2 million acres in nine states as wilderness. Majority Democrats assembled more than enough votes to overcome GOP stalling tactics in an early showdown for the new Congress.

Republicans complained that Democrats did not allow amendments on the massive bill, which calls for the largest expansion of wilderness protection in 25 years. But Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and other Democrats said the bill a holdover from last year was carefully written and included measures sponsored by both Republicans and Democrats.

By a 66-12 vote, with only 59 needed to limit debate, lawmakers agreed to clear away procedural hurdles despite partisan wrangling that had threatened pledges by leaders to work cooperatively as the new Obama administration takes office. Senate approval is expected later this week. Supporters hope the House will follow suit.

"Today is a great day for America's public lands," said the bill's sponsor, Sen. Jeff Bingaman, D-N.M. "This big, bipartisan package of bills represents years of work by senators from many states, and both parties, in cooperation with local communities, to enhance places that make America so special."

A collection of 160 bills
The measure actually a collection of about 160 bills would confer the government's highest level of protection on land ranging from California's Sierra Nevada mountain range to Oregon's Mount Hood, Rocky Mountain National Park in Colorado and parts of the Jefferson National Forest in Virginia. Land in Idaho's Owyhee canyons, Pictured Rocks National Lakeshore in Michigan and Zion National Park in Utah also would be designated as wilderness.

Besides new wilderness designations, the bill would designate the childhood home of former President Bill Clinton in Hope, Ark., as a national historic site and expand protections for dozens of national parks, rivers and water resources.

Reid said about half the bills in the lands package were sponsored by Republicans. Most had been considered for more than a year.

"I am happy that after months of delay we will finally be moving forward," Reid said.

The bill's chief opponent, Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., denounced what he called Democratic bullying tactics.

"I am disappointed the Senate majority leader has refused to allow senators the opportunity to improve, amend or eliminate any of the questionable provisions in his omnibus lands bill," Coburn told fellow senators.

"When the American people asked Congress to set a new tone, I don't believe refusing to listen to the concerns of others was what they had in mind," Coburn said. "The American people expect us hold open, civil and thorough debates on costly legislation, not ram through 1,300-page bills when few are watching."

Complaints from GOP
Coburn and several other Republicans complained that bill was loaded with pet projects and prevented development of oil and gas on federal lands, which they said would deepen the nation's dependence on foreign oil.

Environmental groups said the bill set the right tone for the new Congress.

"By voting to protect mountains and pristine wildlands, Congress is starting out on the right foot," said Christy Goldfuss of Environment America, an advocacy group. "This Congress is serious about protecting the environment and the outstanding lands that Americans treasure."
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Stopping derricks from sprouting up in national parks is bad?
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Stopping derricks from sprouting up in national parks is bad?
Not all of the bills lumped into this is bad. However, with over 150+ bills all lumped into one, they are not giving the individual bills attention, they are just pushing this thru.

Another part of the bill is turning Picture Rocks into protected National area. This means no motorized vehicles of any type allowed. (no wheeling, no winter snowmobiles, etc.) Sound good still?

How about 100 of thousands of acres off limits to motorized travel? That makes sense for a 4X4 group to support.
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Just remember when its all said and done the communities around these places that depend on 4x4s for tourism will ultimaly colapse. when that happens the where will the tree huggers be? They certainly won't be there to prop up the people who needed us as users to bring income to them.
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