Is Ford Serious........ - Page 3 - Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest

Go Back   Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > General 4x4 Stuff > The Pub
GL4x4 Live! GL4x4 Casino

The Pub A friendly forum where everybody is nice, and will answer any questions you have about life.

greatlakes4x4.com is the premier Great Lakes 4x4 Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Search
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old December 10th, 2008, 04:43 PM   #41
GreaseMonkey
Pew pew!
 
GreaseMonkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Madison Heights, MI
Posts: 18,045
iTrader: (22)
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Ledd View Post
http://www.therangerstation.com/foru...ad.php?t=32874

Wow, apparently due to ALL of the bad press Ford and Jim (the site owner) have already reached an agreement (hopefully). Apparently it was all over some older FORD tailgate lettering and some windshield decals that had a Ford logo on either side. Still kind of lame if you ask me.

So thats what the "trademark infringement" was on, and not actually the name "Ranger".
If it's for profit such as things being sold, then that makes sense.

Simply going after domain names for loyal supporters is stupid. I hate lawyers.
GreaseMonkey is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old December 10th, 2008, 05:09 PM   #42
Captain Ledd
Ranger Addiction?
 
Captain Ledd's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: Davisburg
Posts: 2,064
iTrader: (31)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GreaseMonkey View Post
If it's for profit such as things being sold, then that makes sense.

Simply going after domain names for loyal supporters is stupid. I hate lawyers.
Strange that layers always seem to pick the most absolutely aggravating response one could possibly give, and then wonder why everyone gets bent out of shape about it.

I remember those decals they were like $4 or something like that. it was an attempt to try to help cover server and site costs, not get rich.

I do see where they are coming from now that there has been more information. Ford definitely could have pursued a better course of action in the first place though.
Captain Ledd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 10th, 2008, 05:37 PM   #43
GreaseMonkey
Pew pew!
 
GreaseMonkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Madison Heights, MI
Posts: 18,045
iTrader: (22)
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Ledd View Post
Strange that layers always seem to pick the most absolutely aggravating response one could possibly give, and then wonder why everyone gets bent out of shape about it.

I remember those decals they were like $4 or something like that. it was an attempt to try to help cover server and site costs, not get rich.

I do see where they are coming from now that there has been more information. Ford definitely could have pursued a better course of action in the first place though.
Agreed.

If it's still selling for a monetary value, it's still trademark and copyright infringement. Not that I agree with Ford or anything, but if those were being sold in stores without Ford's approval, they have every right to pursue legal action if the company refuses to stop selling them.
GreaseMonkey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 10th, 2008, 06:09 PM   #44
Jimmysjeep
All about the cubicles...
 
Jimmysjeep's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-16-08
Location: 2 Paws
Posts: 1,523
iTrader: (2)
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Default

Alot of the aftermarket places that I bought parts from and some of the mustang sites went through this some time back.

The mom and pop places were let off the $5000 if they were low-profit( ie no money from a lawsuit anyway) and changed the name to not use mustang or ford.

They also had to lay a disclaimer about not being affiliated with the ford motor co.

They had the balls to claim any use of the word mustang or ford. Ford I could possably see, but mustang? Come on. Please..............

Now, ranger? Ranger has alot of descriptions other than the truck.
Jimmysjeep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 10th, 2008, 06:33 PM   #45
ckupq
Kitten I'm gonna eat you!
 
ckupq's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-07-05
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA 52402
Posts: 3,435
iTrader: (6)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GreaseMonkey View Post
If it's for profit such as things being sold, then that makes sense.

Simply going after domain names for loyal supporters is stupid. I hate lawyers.
That sounds about right

http://www.therangerstation.com/foru...ad.php?t=32875
Quote:
Dear Jim,

Thanks for bringing this issue to our attention. Without question, Ford enthusiasts are extremely important to us. Their enthusiasm and loyalty are part of our heritage and part of what's going to keep us moving forward.

Recently, there was an item posted stating that Ford was requesting TheRangerStation.com to turn over its URL to Ford and pay $5,000. We'd like the opportunity to share some additional facts that might make a difference in how you think about this situation.

In its communications, TheRangerStation.com stated that Ford was making them change the name of their site and pay $5,000. What was not mentioned was that TheRangerStation.com was selling counterfeit Ford-brand merchandise on the site. As a company, Ford has a responsibility to protect our brand and a responsibility to our licensees. We cannot let something like that pass. (The counterfeit goods have been removed from the website since TheRangerStation.com got the letter from Ford's attorney.)

Please know that Ford takes no joy in pursuing enthusiast sites. Since there are a number of sites out there with Ford vehicles as part of their names or URLs, some people have asked if they should be concerned. Ford has been and continues to be willing to license its trademarks for use by enthusiast groups and enthusiast websites. Requesting a license is done easily by contacting tmgroup@ford.com. To request a license to produce or sell branded merchandise bearing Ford's trademarks, contact branduse@ford.com.

In short, we are not asking for $5,000 and we would like TheRangerStation.com to keep the domain name. We simply encourage TheRangerStation.com to contact Ford to request a license to continue using the domain name.

We hope you will share this information with anyone who is concerned. We deeply appreciate our fansí dedication and enthusiasm and want to be able to work together with all of our supporters to tell the Ford story.


Scott Monty
Global Digital Communications
Ford Motor Company
ckupq is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 10th, 2008, 10:09 PM   #46
booblinker
Trailer Trash
 
booblinker's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-29-06
Location: Leonard, mi
Posts: 10,541
iTrader: (5)
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to booblinker
Default

Jim Oaks(owner of the Rangerstation) has requested all threads on other sites about this be locked since it was resolved.
__________________
-2001 Tahoe original 5.3 4x4 only 436k
-Down to 2 three wheelers
-1996 GMC Jimmy
-1985 V65 Magna
-1978 F100
-1973 CT70 with 125cc motor
booblinker is online now   Reply With Quote
Old December 11th, 2008, 01:01 PM   #47
fukkinrizzo
Chrome Trucker Chicks Rul
 
fukkinrizzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-04-07
Location: Port Huron, MI area
Posts: 3,217
iTrader: (3)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

I received this e-mail after I inquired about it.



Quote:
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 12:27 PM
To: fukkinrizzo
Subject: Thank You for Contacting Ford Motor Company

Hello and Thanks for bringing this issue to our attention. Without question, Ford enthusiasts are extremely important to us. Their enthusiasm and loyalty are part of our heritage and part of what's going to keep us moving forward.

Recently, there was an item posted stating that Ford was requesting TheRangerStation.com to turn over its URL to Ford and pay $5,000. We'd like the opportunity to share some additional facts that might make a difference in how you think about this situation.

In its communications, TheRangerStation.com stated that Ford was making them change the name of their site and pay $5,000. What was not mentioned was that TheRangerStation.com was selling counterfeit Ford-brand merchandise on the site. As a company, Ford has a responsibility to protect our brand and a responsibility to our licensees. We cannot let something like that pass. (The counterfeit goods have been removed from the website since TheRangerStation.com got the letter from Ford's attorney.)

Please know that Ford takes no joy in pursuing enthusiast sites. Since there are a number of sites out there with Ford vehicles as part of their names or URLs, some people have asked if they should be concerned. Ford has been and continues to be willing to license its trademarks for use by enthusiast groups and enthusiast websites. Requesting a license is done easily by contacting tmgroup@ford.com. To request a license to produce or sell branded merchandise bearing Ford's trademarks, contact branduse@ford.com.

We hope you will share this information with anyone who is concerned. We deeply appreciate our fansí dedication and enthusiasm and want to be able to work together with all of our supporters to tell the Ford story.

Customer Relationship Center
Ford Motor Company
fukkinrizzo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 11th, 2008, 01:15 PM   #48
CheapThrillB2
FAWK YEAH!!
 
CheapThrillB2's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-06-06
Location: Middleville, MI
Posts: 31,737
iTrader: (62)
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Default

after reading more of the story and reading fords response.....it makes sense and you can't blame ford for taking action per the selling of merchandise with fords logo on it.
CheapThrillB2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > General 4x4 Stuff > The Pub

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:08 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Runs best on HiVelocity Hosting.
Page generated in 0.57803 seconds with 45 queries