.30-06 vs .308 - Page 3 - Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest

Go Back   Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > Other Stuff > The Great Outdoors
GL4x4 Live! GL4x4 Casino

The Great Outdoors Guns, Cannons, Fishing, Camping, and other fun stuff

greatlakes4x4.com is the premier Great Lakes 4x4 Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Search
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old November 10th, 2008, 09:43 PM   #41
chadcooper55
expert jeep disassembler
 
chadcooper55's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-28-08
Location: kent city mi
Posts: 8,033
iTrader: (20)
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Default

generally most of those are 1/4 moa which equals approx. 1/4" at 100 yards but if you move it 1 click at 200 yard how far does the point of impact move? i know you will really have to think about this one! it is still 1/4moa but it is a different distance the point of impact moves.
chadcooper55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old November 10th, 2008, 09:44 PM   #42
chadcooper55
expert jeep disassembler
 
chadcooper55's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-28-08
Location: kent city mi
Posts: 8,033
iTrader: (20)
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Default

this is simple stuff there steveo
chadcooper55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 10th, 2008, 09:44 PM   #43
steveo
In the band!
 
Join Date: 03-30-07
Location: montana/wyoming
Posts: 20,293
iTrader: (6)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chadcooper55 View Post
generally most of those are 1/4 moa which equals approx. 1/4" at 100 yards but if you move it 1 click at 200 yard how far does the point of impact move? i know you will really have to think about this one! it is still 1/4moa but it is a different distance the point of impact moves.
no wonder your such a good shot.
steveo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 10th, 2008, 09:45 PM   #44
steveo
In the band!
 
Join Date: 03-30-07
Location: montana/wyoming
Posts: 20,293
iTrader: (6)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chadcooper55 View Post
this is simple stuff there steveo
it must be simple if you can grasp it.
steveo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 10th, 2008, 09:50 PM   #45
chadcooper55
expert jeep disassembler
 
chadcooper55's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-28-08
Location: kent city mi
Posts: 8,033
iTrader: (20)
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Default

im just glad that you now know what those little marks on your turrets are!
chadcooper55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 11th, 2008, 08:37 AM   #46
scrambled82
Senior Member
 
scrambled82's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-03-08
Location: livonia/mi
Posts: 3,932
iTrader: (19)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

here are the two guns I am thinking about

http://www.remington.com/products/fi...long_range.asp

last page the vanguard sub moa matte and stainless
http://www.399weatherby.com/_pdf/2008_Vanguard.pdf
scrambled82 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 11th, 2008, 09:03 AM   #47
chadcooper55
expert jeep disassembler
 
chadcooper55's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-28-08
Location: kent city mi
Posts: 8,033
iTrader: (20)
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Default

personally i would stay away from the waetherby, you pay alot for a name and they dont shoot that great. that remington is a very good gun but it is heavy. that is great if you plan on not walking with it but you mentioned elk hunting. i have a browning a-bolt i use for elk and i think that is too heavy. when you are walking up and down mountains all day lighter is better. my next gun if i buy a factory one is going to be the kimber 84m montana. or the remington ti. if you dont want to spend that much just buy a basic rem 700. the nice thing about a remington is there are a million parts for them. if you want to change anything you can. if you get a weatherby you better like what you got b/c they dont make much for them.
chadcooper55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 11th, 2008, 09:09 AM   #48
chadcooper55
expert jeep disassembler
 
chadcooper55's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-28-08
Location: kent city mi
Posts: 8,033
iTrader: (20)
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Default

you will like the thumbhook on that remington stock though. i got a mcmillan with that on it and it is nice for shooting on the bench and if you are laying down. it gives you a great place to put your left hand for stability
chadcooper55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 11th, 2008, 11:25 AM   #49
JEEPR
Playing Possum
 
JEEPR's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Harrison Township
Posts: 6,744
iTrader: (9)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

I like 30.06 over the .308, personally.
JEEPR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 11th, 2008, 11:28 AM   #50
FlatFender
Tap Tap Splat
 
FlatFender's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Raleigh NC
Posts: 15,782
iTrader: (1)
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Default

.30-06 Savage with accu-trigger.

I shot one at the range last week (it was a .270) and the accu-trigger is the cats ass.
FlatFender is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 11th, 2008, 12:20 PM   #51
chadcooper55
expert jeep disassembler
 
chadcooper55's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-28-08
Location: kent city mi
Posts: 8,033
iTrader: (20)
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FlatFender View Post
.30-06 Savage with accu-trigger.

I shot one at the range last week (it was a .270) and the accu-trigger is the cats ass.
x-2 if you want a no frills gun that will shoot great you cant beat it. i got a 22-250 that is a savage with the accutrigger and i love it. it shoots phenominal, the stock sucks ass though but you can get a new one of those!
chadcooper55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 11th, 2008, 01:26 PM   #52
tom tom
Senior Member
 
tom tom's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-05-07
Location: Monroe MI
Posts: 1,704
iTrader: (28)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

personally I would go with the remington. I do belive the 7 mm mag is a better round than the 308. The weatherby is a better name but not worth the money. I would suggest the remington model 700 boone and crockett or the sps buckmasters edition, or even the alaskian
tom tom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 11th, 2008, 01:51 PM   #53
cwk33041
Senior Member
 
cwk33041's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-12-06
Location: Livonia & Houghton, MI
Posts: 801
iTrader: (3)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by steveo View Post
7mm mag? excellent round, my personal favorite.
That's what I shoot, the only thing that sucks is the ammo's price.
cwk33041 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 11th, 2008, 01:56 PM   #54
smasheromalley
Senior Member
 
smasheromalley's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: Michigan
Posts: 3,038
iTrader: (15)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

I LOVE my savage 111 (.270)
smasheromalley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 11th, 2008, 03:22 PM   #55
steveo
In the band!
 
Join Date: 03-30-07
Location: montana/wyoming
Posts: 20,293
iTrader: (6)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cwk33041 View Post
That's what I shoot, the only thing that sucks is the ammo's price.
I reload for my magnums, i don't remember the last time i bought preloaded ammo for one.
steveo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 14th, 2008, 03:11 PM   #56
herm
Newbie
 
herm's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-13-08
Location: chippewa lake
Posts: 19
iTrader: (0)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

model 70 winchester in 2506 thats what you need.
herm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 9th, 2008, 03:07 AM   #57
voodoo2
VooDooII
 
voodoo2's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-01-08
Location: grand haven, mi
Posts: 1
iTrader: (0)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to voodoo2 Send a message via Yahoo to voodoo2
Default

I use a remington model 700 with a bull barrel, shooting 173 grain rounds. I can attest to their knockdown power. The only game I have shot with it are terrorists, and the occasional dogs. With that rifle and a 10x scope, I am inside an apple at 500 meteres every shot. I have yet to see anyone get up from a single well placed round. I have had a single round puncture a thin metal door, and still had enough power to go completly through a human skull. If you need more power than that, I recomend an appache. ;)
voodoo2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 9th, 2008, 03:26 AM   #58
OldSailor
AKA GreyShrink
 
OldSailor's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-29-06
Location: Livonia, MI
Posts: 521
iTrader: (0)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by steveo View Post
whats wrong with being limited to under 180 grains? .243 is a great bullet, perfect for yotes, whitetail and chucks/hogs.

Well, he said he'd ocasionally be hunting bear and elk. I'd much rather have an '06 than a .243 for that larger game.

The only real reasons one would choose a .308 over a .30-06 is: (1) You wanted a shorter action, which the .308 is; or (2) You already had or could get really cheap a rifle in that caliber. When the .308 first came out (particularly the 7.62 NATO version), it was the eqivalent of a .30-06 with bullet weights of 150 and 165 grains, and that was due to the better powders being formulated at that time. However, if one handloads, then the .30-06 is a ballistically superior cartridge. There is some minor weight and space savings with the .308, but the average hunter doesn't carry enough ammo to make that a pertinent factor.
OldSailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > Other Stuff > The Great Outdoors

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:21 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright 2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Runs best on HiVelocity Hosting.
Page generated in 0.26457 seconds with 75 queries