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Old November 10th, 2008, 08:50 PM   #1
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Looking for a 1/2 ton tow rig. Dodge, Chevy or Ford doesn't really what just as long as you can back it up some sort of positive reinforcement . I don't want to hear too many complaints against a model if you don't own it. There are enough people here and on the other sites I've posted this on I shouldn't have to base anything on speculation.

I had a DD XJ for the last couple of years and the last big truck I owned was a 90's F150.

My requirements:
Newer than 99 ( I never get one older than what I got now)
Not new, These new trucks look like crap, but I won't rule out a 08 model(except for a 07-08 chevy).
Under 25K
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Old November 10th, 2008, 08:51 PM   #2
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Grab life by the horns

in all honesty they all seem to be building a preatty good truck .. just buy what you find the best deal on and what has the best options for your taste
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Old November 10th, 2008, 08:55 PM   #3
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well I'm going to hold off till I get out of the flood plains of the Mississippi. I don't trust all the used trucks down here. I'm heading to Michigan in two weeks I'll support the economy then.
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Old November 10th, 2008, 09:04 PM   #5
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After having my Cummins, I feel like I'd never have a gasser again . . . but if I did, I think I'd have to recommend the 1/2 ton Chevy. The LS engine platform is kickass, and they'll run like a raped ape. I took the heads off my Brother's '99 last summer at 135K miles and the cylinders looked like new, for what it's worth. I only had the heads off because of broken exhaust bolts that were caused by a warping exhaust manifold. They were not leaking, but brother had extra cash and wanted them fixed. From what I've heard they took care of that problem.

Jackass totaled the thing right afterward.

Honestly, 25k will buy a hell of a truck . . . I'd get a 03+ cummins . . .
for example . . .
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___2005-Dodge-Ram-2500-Quad-Cab-SLT-4WD-Cummins-Diesel-SB_W0QQitemZ380078794254QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQ QddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=it em380078794254&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72% 3A727|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

I know you said you wanted a 1/2 ton, but this thing will last forever and never leave you wanting for more power. I'm just another dude who drank the koolaid though. hehe.
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Old November 10th, 2008, 09:05 PM   #6
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my 1999 gmc shortbox sucks ass towing a trailer. it has plenty of motor but the suspension is by far not made for it. you would definately need airbags or something to do much hauling with it.
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Buy my 07 crew cab z71 for 20k. 75,000 bumper to bumper warranty, tow package, 3.73 gear, and the uber cool tailgate assist (makes it feel all light and fluffy LOL) towed my wrangler on a trailer just fine.


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i know its not a 1/2 ton but im quite happy with our 03 f250 with the v10. Yea it only averages 10.5 but towin my jeep it gets 10.05.
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Another vote for the Chevy/GMC. If I were to buy a gasser, that would be it.
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well i went from a 95 z71 to my 99 3/4 ton 4x4 quad cab dodge cummins in 99 ,currently it has 260,000 miles and still gets 23 miles per gal empty, the worst i have ever got was 14 mpg and have had more than 15,000 lbs on behind it, I love it!!!!
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i really like the new chevy engine and trans they seem to be holding up well and make good power.

i think it comes down to personal opinion and who is having the best deal
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I don't know why this is even a discussion. Who gives a fukc if its a 98, it will do everything you ever need it to. Go buy this right now:

http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=107023

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I don't know why this is even a discussion. Who gives a fukc if its a 98, it will do everything you ever need it to. Go buy this right now:

http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=107023

For as much as Hacksaw got ragged on for having stacks, I think I'll pass. That is quite frankly more truck than I ever would want at the moment.
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For as much as Hacksaw got ragged on for having stacks, I think I'll pass. That is quite frankly more truck than I ever would want at the moment.
IMO, unless you get a GM like UP_KOKdeCOY has, you are going to have a hard time beating a 3/4 ton Dodge with a Cummins in the cost per mile dept. You will be happy with it. Even if I wasn't towing anything, I would still drive a Cummins over a gas powered 1/2 ton, unless I had the money for a way newer GM.
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For as much as Hacksaw got ragged on for having stacks, I think I'll pass. That is quite frankly more truck than I ever would want at the moment.
Oh, I get it - you want less truck, with less torque, lower tow limits, less overall capability, possibly less cargo space, less stability, taller gearing, lower mileage when towing, and you want to pay more money for it? Gotcha.

Form follows function, man. Replacing the stacks with a conventional system would be an extremely small price to pay considering the purpose-purchased vehicle's ability to do the job you need done. Trucks like that are what you should really be considering in order to get your money's worth. Here's one that fits your parameters except for the whole "I don't want to buy a lot of truck" thing:

http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=99828


Sounds like you want to waste a bunch of $ or what you really want is just not really a tow rig.
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Oh, I get it - you want less truck, with less torque, lower tow limits, less overall capability, possibly less cargo space, less stability, taller gearing, lower mileage when towing, and you want to pay more money for it? Gotcha.

Form follows function, man. Replacing the stacks with a conventional system would be an extremely small price to pay considering the purpose-purchased vehicle's ability to do the job you need done. Trucks like that are what you should really be considering in order to get your money's worth. Here's one that fits your parameters except for the whole "I don't want to buy a lot of truck" thing:

http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=99828


Sounds like you want to waste a bunch of $ or what you really want is just not really a tow rig.
or he realizes he doesnt need that and wants a nice ride from a vehicle that gets good mileage doesnt have as high of maintenance cost and pays less for fuel and no rust

i dunno
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or he realizes he doesnt need that and wants a nice ride from a vehicle that gets good mileage doesnt have as high of maintenance cost and pays less for fuel and no rust

i dunno
Yeah, then he's not buying a tow rig, which is a vehicle for occasional tow usage (like I said at the end). He sounds like he wants a nicer daily driver that will be inferior when put in the role of the correct vehicle. Sure, a half-ton will get him to the trail and back. It'll also get him a lot more wear and higher operating costs in addition to the up-front capital.

Who the fukc cares what the fuel cost would be when you are looking at buying something that costs only $7,500 vs. the $10,000, $15,000, or even the limit of $25,000 when the cheap vehicle will get significantly better mileage when towing (most likely empty, too)? Do you have any idea how many miles he would have to drive in order for the difference in gasoline vs. diesel cost to be a justifiable reason for not buying the Cummins? Seriously - do some math. Don't get overconfident in the oil market (gasoline). Diesel is also only $1 higher than gasoline right now.

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I drive an f-150 supercrew short bed with the fx4 package and it's not that bad. I've never towed anything over 3k so i guess my opinion might be void for this. I can say Ford pick ups are very comfortable and great DD's. My mom owns an 08 supercrew 4x4 and it tows significantly better than mine. My uncle owns a 1/2ton Dodge and i felt like the rear end was getting pushed at every turn, and i don't like the way Dodge 1500's sit.

-If you are looking for a DD/Tow rig, get a nice Ford or Chevy 4 door. They sit very comfortably and get decent gas mileage.
-Something that's mostly a tow rig but will get driven a fair amount, go DIESEL!
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I'm looking forward to getting rid of my 3/4 ton dodge, with a newer chevy 5.3.
With your short commute, a diesel would not be a great idea, IMO. The whole diesel price being 30-50% more than gas sucks, too.

If you are getting a michigan truck, get as new as possible. 90s dodge = rust. If not now, then soon.

Now, if you needed a 3/4 ton, then get a 3/4, and then you start looking at diesels, for sure. But 90% of the board probably does just fine with a 1/2 ton, and for the ~half a dozen times a year that most people tow heavy loads, you drive a little slower.

With the prices in the market, there are a lot of really nice 2-5 year old 1/2 tons out there for the money.
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