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Old October 25th, 2008, 09:30 AM   #1
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How do Ford axles compare to Dana axles strength wise. I am looking for a comparison, like:

Does a ford 8.8 = Dana 44 and a ford 9 = Dana 60, or am I way off?
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Old October 25th, 2008, 09:35 AM   #2
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ford 8.8 and stock 9"= a little better than Dana 44

Ford 9" and a bunch of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$= Dana 60
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Old October 25th, 2008, 12:27 PM   #3
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The 9" is stronger than a 44 thats for sure. I guess when it comes to the 9" vs 60 debate its personal preference. I'd rather have 9" rear over the 60. The dana 70 is a different story though...
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Old October 26th, 2008, 12:48 PM   #4
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I agree with 99grandtj an 8.8 is a little better than a D44. The D44 has 8.5" ring gear and 1.376 pinion shaft. The 8.8 has a 8.8" ring gear and a 1.626 pinion shaft. But I would say a 9" is much stronger than a D44 because of the pinion support. IMO it would take some mods to equal a D60 strength with a 9". The Sterling is about equal to a D70. I just had my 10.5 apart on Friday replacing the posi clutches, now I wish I would have taken some photos for comparison sake.
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Old October 29th, 2008, 12:10 PM   #5
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The NG Dana 44 that are used in 07+ JK Jeeps are very different. Here is a comparison between the front JK D44 pinion on the left and the front pinion from a TJ rubicon D44 axle on the right.

The JK pinions are similar in size to Dana 60 pinions, the inner bearing surface on the Jk pinion measures 1.625 inches. The pinion head is also much larger on the NG D44s. Here is a comparison picture of the rears:
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Old October 29th, 2008, 12:42 PM   #6
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The NG Dana 44 that are used in 07+ JK Jeeps are very different. Here is a comparison between the front JK D44 pinion on the left and the front pinion from a TJ rubicon D44 axle on the right.

The JK pinions are similar in size to Dana 60 pinions, the inner bearing surface on the Jk pinion measures 1.625 inches. The pinion head is also much larger on the NG D44s. Here is a comparison picture of the rears:

What ratio are we looking at?
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Old October 29th, 2008, 01:07 PM   #7
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in stock form they are all pretty much equal because the most likely failure will be the axle shaft which is not much different between them, from there, their weight capacity comes in and a FF 60 would be the best.... with no limit on money the 9" is king followed by the 60.

cheap strength=14b
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Old October 29th, 2008, 02:22 PM   #8
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What ratio are we looking at?
Those should have been 4.10
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Ford 9" and a bunch of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$= Dana 60
You can get 35 spline shafts a full spool and bearings for $590 from Moser for a 9".
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You can get 35 spline shafts a full spool and bearings for $590 from Moser for a 9".
That is about 1/2 of it. The major weakness is the stock 3rd (which you pretty much have to buy anyway to run 35 spline stuff), and the housing needs trussed to be comparable to a 60.
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That is about 1/2 of it. The major weakness is the stock 3rd (which you pretty much have to buy anyway to run 35 spline stuff), and the housing needs trussed to be comparable to a 60.
Yup, and so far I don't have a single complaint.
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That is about 1/2 of it. The major weakness is the stock 3rd (which you pretty much have to buy anyway to run 35 spline stuff), and the housing needs trussed to be comparable to a 60.
Well you need to Shave a D60 housing, and bore out the axle spindles, or swap on 14b spindles. Then you need to spend $610 for the 35 spline shafts, spool and bearings.
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i thought 70 shafts will work in a rear 60? i would pick a 9 over a 60 for a rear axle.but i will take a 14 bolt over all them.
bryce are those sweet parts sitting in your garage?
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Well you need to Shave a D60 housing, and bore out the axle spindles, or swap on 14b spindles. Then you need to spend $610 for the 35 spline shafts, spool and bearings.
Yukons are $99 each

But yes the axles/locker/gears are needed in either but the 9 needs 3rd and pinion support
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no, I just found that picture on pirate.
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