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Old September 26th, 2008, 12:04 AM   #1
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H1 magnesium wheel inserts for double beadlocks

I've been asked a few questions about my wheels and how the beadlocks go together, so here it is.

The info that I used to do these came from a lot of research on Pirate and Google.

I unfortuately don't have many pictures off the "re-centering" process, but it is fairly cut and dry.

I took the stock wheel, seen here with a tire mounted,



and used a plasma cutter to cut out the center. I used the outer ring as a guide and ground down the slag for a better look.



The new centers were purchased from Greatlakeoffroad. The wheels were then set on a flat bench and the centers were set on a set of spacers that gave a back spacing of 4.75".

My purpose for doing the offset was to clear the steering arms and protect the hubs.

before (hubs protruding past the outside of the wheel and steering arm clearance):





after: (nearly flush with the outside)



Note:
stock H1 back spacing is ~7"


Once the wheels were recentered, welded, sandblasted and painted it was time to address the heart of the wheel.

(click me) Write-up to recentering your H1s by Tab

I finally used a bandsaw which didn't go to bad with a new blade on it. With the new blade it took about 2.5 hrs to cut through 10 halves (cutting time). I did not need to "precut" the ribs out and only ground the sharp edges with 36 grit.

This metal is very soft and even with the grinder did not get any sparks, but I've got a couple of chunks and some grinding dust for the next bon fire.


Here's all 10 halves waiting to be ground and cleaned up. It actually drop a couple of pounds from the inserts.



I didn't grind them flat, I figured as long as it was below where the two halves bolt together it would be fine.





The backside of the wheel.



This shows the rubber O-ring that is used to seal the wheel when bolted together. I greased mine up to ensure a good seal and they would stay in place.



These next couple of pics show the wheel assembly with out the tire to get a better view of how the wheel goes together with the insert.





Now the tire with insert installed.



Assembly with the tire. To help set the beads I used a spray bottle with water and a touch of liquid soap ... worked beatifully.







Final product: dual bead locks and no runflats for worried free, single digit wheelin'.





Thanks to SMR club member Oly for letting me make sure the bandsaw blade was dull before he put the new one on and keeping him company while watching the Lions get slaughtered for the 3rd weekend in a row.

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Old September 26th, 2008, 12:08 AM   #2
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my god those are cool. plus they look relatively simple to make if you have some skill.
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Old September 26th, 2008, 06:24 AM   #3
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Thanks, there really isn't any major "skill" necessary, maybe just someone that's mechanically inclined and can follow direction. As stated above, I researched a lot before finally making a decision on what's the best wheel with dual bead locks for my dollar.

Next addition to these will be a rockring.

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Old September 26th, 2008, 11:34 AM   #4
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Nice write up
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Old September 26th, 2008, 11:37 AM   #5
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So you re-weld the center section in where it bolts to the lugs/?? How do you ensure that that stays true and centered?
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Old September 26th, 2008, 01:22 PM   #6
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So you re-weld the center section in where it bolts to the lugs/?? How do you ensure that that stays true and centered?
you could do that one of two ways...frist there is a ring inside the stock H1 rim that is true you can rest the new center on. Or you could make spacers bolt them to the stock mounting surface and the new center, weld the back side of the new center and the cut out the old center, then finish welding up the front...it's not hard at all
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Old September 26th, 2008, 04:46 PM   #7
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Nice write up
Thanks, I was a little hesitant with all the info out there, but what the hell.

I probably won't be adding the rockring until spring and after the front 60 has been swapped in due to the weight issue.



Update:
I drove it today for the first time with the modified inserts. I have never wasted time or money trying to balance these and I now notice a substantial difference without the weight of the runflats. Still waayyy unbalanced, but better.


Here's a better picture of the inserts and what they look like prior to being cut.

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Old September 26th, 2008, 05:52 PM   #8
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add 4-6 golf balls, bb's or balancing sand
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Old September 28th, 2008, 06:05 AM   #9
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add 4-6 golf balls, bb's or balancing sand
ehh, it's not that bad, it still drives out nice. Had it going 75mph on the way home from hosejockeys on Fri.
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Old October 27th, 2008, 10:57 AM   #10
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You can get a one peice flexable insert from usa6x6 if you don't want to run the runflats to save on weight. 40 a peice. I have them on mine.
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Old October 27th, 2008, 11:45 AM   #11
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You can get a one peice flexable insert from usa6x6 if you don't want to run the runflats to save on weight. 40 a peice. I have them on mine.
USA6x6 is most likely out of business, and if not, I hope you have a few months to recieve your order.
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You can get a one peice flexable insert from usa6x6 if you don't want to run the runflats to save on weight. 40 a peice. I have them on mine.

you can? from where? Isn't he partners with JPFab?
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I bought them about a year ago.
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Old October 28th, 2008, 08:35 AM   #14
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cjdean on pirate sells inserts too, usa's were very flexible though. If someone wants to see a thread of re centering I did one about 6-8 months ago in the fabrication section.
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cjdean on pirate sells inserts too, usa's were very flexible though. If someone wants to see a thread of re centering I did one about 6-8 months ago in the fabrication section.
Tab, if you don't mind I'm going to add a link to that. Sue me if you don't.
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did you get the rock rings yet? I can cut some for you if you want. I'll give them to you when I see you......like next month and save you some shipping.
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did you get the rock rings yet? I can cut some for you if you want. I'll give them to you when I see you......like next month and save you some shipping.
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Old October 28th, 2008, 04:51 PM   #20
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Where did you guys source your H1s? Finding a set "local" for what they go for out west has been a pain in the ass...Shipping kills a homie

I'm torn between doing another set of DIY beads or going H1s and recentering....Has anybody ever debeaded the inner on a set of standard beads? I'm trying to figure out whether these are even worth it or not, I can get 16" DIY candidates till the cows come home
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