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Old October 4th, 2008, 10:37 AM   #1
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Default 2" or 3" strap?

I have a TJ and I need a new recovery strap. What is better for the Jeep a 2" or 3" wide strap?

Will a 3" stretch enough for a Jeep?
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Old October 4th, 2008, 12:03 PM   #2
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I vote 3"

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Old October 4th, 2008, 02:42 PM   #3
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2" straps are scary
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Old October 4th, 2008, 02:52 PM   #4
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I use a 3" , Stronger the better.

I have found though that the wider strap does not fit on some peoples hooks or in the D-rings.
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Old October 4th, 2008, 02:54 PM   #5
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Bigger the better!!!
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3 inch you have to buy less straps that way
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Old October 4th, 2008, 09:13 PM   #7
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I was leaning that way too. I figure you cant be safe enough when it comes to recovery!

Thanks folks, I will order a 3" strap.
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I dont know if they still make them, but I had a double thick double sewn 2" one that worked awesome. Was way stronger than any 3" and easier to handle.

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i run a 5" overkill is a must when buying a strap
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I would love to purchase a smaller strap for a situation where I just need a small tug. Like said I have found where sometimes my strap does not fit on other peoples rigs.
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I strongly disagree with all of you. A strap is meant to stretch and should not be hammered on. A 2" strap gives the right amount of stretch and retraction for a lighter vehicle. I have been wheeling for 30 years with a jeep and have NEVER broken a 2" strap.

Here's what I do. Attempt a pull from a tight line. If you can't extract the stuck vehicle, 2-5 ft of slack is the MAXIMUM amount of slack you should ever have. You also should not hammer it, but rather a good stout pull. If you can't extract them that way, it's time for safer alternatives like a winch.

Straps first came on board to the 4x4 world about 1975. At that time, they came with directions and life time guarantees. If you followed the directions, they worked flawlessly. They are meant to be used like a rubber band. I have had situations where a good pull and stand on the brakes would slowly pull out the stuck vehicle.

A 3" strap on the other hand gives too much of a jerk because it takes too much inertia to stretch it. Using a 3" strap for "safety" because it is less likely to break only moves the weak point into a more dangerous area like tow hook or frame component. It also give a bit of "beer confidence" allowing a person to think they can hit it harder because the strap won't break. Break a strap by itself and not much damage happens. Have an overly strong strap and it breaks something else, which is what kills people. You never hear of a broken strap going through a windshield and killing someone. You hear of a broken tow hook or a clevis used wrong killing people.

Bottom line, if I can't extract a vehicle safely with a 2" strap, I won't pull it.

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Yep, in fact there was a good thread on this that white rhino started, where we went into some of the interesting physics.

I have both 2" and 3" straps in my truck. But I also don't really get a flying start, and my 3" strap happens to be longer, so its easier to tug someone from a longer distance.

Either would work fine, but I think if you are doing more of the tugs where you are stretching it, start with a 2" strap. Their still 20,000lb (or more) breaking strength, where your hooks are less than that, and it'll stretch more and jerk less.
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I strongly disagree with all of you. A strap is meant to stretch and should not be hammered on. A 2" strap gives the right amount of stretch and retraction for a lighter vehicle. I have been wheeling for 30 years with a jeep and have NEVER broken a 2" strap.

Here's what I do. Attempt a pull from a tight line. If you can't extract the stuck vehicle, 2-5 ft of slack is the MAXIMUM amount of slack you should ever have. You also should not hammer it, but rather a good stout pull. If you can't extract them that way, it's time for safer alternatives like a winch.

Straps first came on board to the 4x4 world about 1975. At that time, they came with directions and life time guarantees. If you followed the directions, they worked flawlessly. They are meant to be used like a rubber band. I have had situations where a good pull and stand on the brakes would slowly pull out the stuck vehicle.

A 3" strap on the other hand gives too much of a jerk because it takes too much inertia to stretch it. Using a 3" strap for "safety" because it is less likely to break only moves the weak point into a more dangerous area like tow hook or frame component. It also give a bit of "beer confidence" allowing a person to think they can hit it harder because the strap won't break. Break a strap by itself and not much damage happens. Have an overly strong strap and it breaks something else, which is what kills people. You never hear of a broken strap going through a windshield and killing someone. You hear of a broken tow hook or a clevis used wrong killing people.

Bottom line, if I can't extract a vehicle safely with a 2" strap, I won't pull it.

I appreciate your counter view! What you say makes a lot of sense.
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