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Old September 24th, 2008, 09:52 AM   #1
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My trailer needs new tires. Currently it has 225/75/R15 C rated tires. Discount Tire will replace them with 8-ply C rated, same size for $445 out the door (4 tires, mounted on existing rims).
I can buy 4 new trailer tires already mounted on new rims from TSC and have my old ones as spares for about the same price, but the TSC tires are 205/70/R15 C rated, and I think 6-ply. Can I run the narrower tire? 6-ply vs. 8-ply make a big difference?
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I'd take a look at the max load specs of the smaller tires and compare them against what you plan to run.

Here's the specs with Goodyear Marathons:

205/75R15 load range C max load 1820 lbs.
225/75R15 load range D max load 2540 lbs
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goodyear marathons are great tires.

I just replaced 2 tires on my enclosed with "greenball" brand. they were a joint venture with Goodyear. They make a load range E for a 15" rim, which was the main reason I went with them. The load is only something like 2850 on range E, compared to the 2540 for D, but the max tire pressure is 80 psi instead of 60, so I have a lot less sidewall deflection (which I think was causing my blowouts on Carlisle brands)
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(which I think was causing my blowouts on Carlisle brands)
were they carlisle radials? if so, it's because they suck. The Carlisle bias seem to be fine.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=280873

GY Marathons do rock. I've got 4 years and tons of miles on my current set with no issues.
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were they carlisle radials? if so, it's because they suck. The Carlisle bias seem to be fine.
not sure what they were. The tandom axle trailer came with 6 tires (3 carlisle, 3 marathons). All 3 carlisles were blown out on the first 5 trips. None of the marathons were... I now have 2 marathons and 2 greenballs on there, with a marathon for spare. I'm done with carlisle, radial or bias. If their tires can't handle the load they are rated, they shouldn't sell them.
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I'm pretty sure the Discount Tire quote I got (over the phone) was for Carlisle tires. I think I'll just bite the bullet, buck up and buy the Marathons. Thanks for the advice guys.
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Ha, I just called Discount and the price for the Marathon 8-ply 225/75/R15s is cheaper than what they quoted for the Carlisle tires!
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Get a price from a couple other places, then call Discount with the cheapest price. Their first price quote is like the sticker price at a car lot. They have a LOT of room to move on tire prices.
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i got a set of trailer tires they were 205-75-15 from belle tire for 47 per tire.
they were some el cheapo china brand though. seem to work fine. many miles no issues.
2 years on them now. nice tread pattern too. my trailer is really light though. ive heard alot of good stuff about the marathons. ive heard alot of bad about the carlisles. check rv.net towrig fourm also. changing size should be no issue, its a pretty small change.
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changing size should be no issue, its a pretty small change.
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so long as he's running 3500# axles and not 5000# axles. In that case, the tires would be under the axle rating if he drops to a 205/75R15.
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Yep, 3500# axles... but I've already decided to go overkill. It is cheaper than the TSC option anyway, and I like the fact that you guys have first hand experience with the Marathons.

Brad - I have dickered with them on price in the past, as much as I HATE playing that game, you're right, that's what I should do.
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Dickering saved my buddy at work about $150 on a set of BFG's at Discount for his F-150.
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those prices are really high. i guess its time to raise my prices
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Those seemed way expensive to me also for trailer tires

i've always used carlisle bias tires with no issues, radial tires from what i've heard are not the best for trailers
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It seemed expensive to me too, but what do I know - this is my first time buying trailer tires. I think Discount's 'sticker' price for the Marathon's is $73 for the C range (6-ply, 1820#), and $84 for the D range 8-ply. $369/$416 resepectively "out the door" including mounting, tax, tire disposal (pre-dickering remember).

Ken - I didn't know you were selling tires. Can you get me Marathon's?
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imo the goodyear trailer tires are subpar as far as quality. they are made by national for goodyear and they are too soft for my taste.

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imo the goodyear trailer tires are subpar as far as quality. they are made by national for goodyear and they are too soft for my taste.
who do you recommend? if there's better for similar or less money, then I'm all about that.
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load range d carlisle bias ply for his application. heck a c rating is even going to be ok for his application but id rather be safe than sorry.

2450#@65psi. ive sold alot of these with little to no issues at all.
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Thanks Ken! I will give the Carlisle's a go... from what I have been reading (in that thread on Pirate and a couple other forums), the problems that Carlisle had were due to a bad batch a few years back, and specific to the radials.
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ill call you when im ready to install these for you

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