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Old September 12th, 2008, 04:35 PM   #21
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1, b, 3.....is that new numbers?

Just seeing if anyone was paying attention
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Old September 12th, 2008, 04:37 PM   #22
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ahh . . . how great it is to just not vote or care
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Old September 12th, 2008, 08:30 PM   #23
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Your credibilty is going in the shitter when you use a source such as the michigian messenger.

I expect way more than that from you.
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Old September 13th, 2008, 08:13 AM   #24
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I am not familiar with Alinsky, but at first glance it seems that what you quote (an opinion column from a British periodical) may not be the whole story.

Seems Alinsky's attitude toward organizing and helping to better conditions in the Chicago stock yards could be looked at as a Marxists way, but aren't there people who say that about any effort to organize or unionize people?


I think this may be as fair of a look at his dedication as any other (from Wikipedia), Plus this quote includes all of the Lucifer reference instead of just a clip. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky
I like this part of the Wiki article.....

"In Rules for Radicals, he argued that the most effective means are whatever will achieve the desired ends..."


So to him the end justify the means.

Apply that logic to real life and see where it takes you. Probably to prision.
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Old September 13th, 2008, 08:56 AM   #25
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So, on a similar theme (i.e. no hijack):

What do y'all think about requiring an ID to vote? I keep hearing that perfectly reasonable measure to ensure the most basic integrity being attacked as being a tool to keep voters from voting. My favorite is that it is a form of "poll tax' in that you have to obtain a government-issued ID at some nominal cost...

btw, I'm all for it. That. and I oppose the Obamatoids efforts to reinstate voting rights for felons, since they've determined that convicted felons are a Obama-friendly pool of voters.

btw, the term "Obamatoid" refers to the legions of Obama faithful that, because they are not "official campaign staffers" (like moveon.org) are free to do all manner of questionable things to promote their candidate, while leaving said candidate's hands clean (i.e. the Sarah Palin attacks).

http://www.pottsmerc.com/site/news.c...id=18041&rfi=6

http://www.journalgazette.net/apps/p...AL08/808110363

http://www.the-savvy-sista.com/2008/...ting-laws.html
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Old September 13th, 2008, 09:16 AM   #26
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If I rember correctly doesnt the Electorial Colledge actually vote for the president after the public election?

They are supposed to vote via our wishes, hense the public elections

This doesn't necessarily mean they will vote the way we tell them to via the pols
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Old September 13th, 2008, 09:35 AM   #27
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Your credibilty is going in the shitter when you use a source such as the michigian messenger.

I expect way more than that from you.


I don't

Now at least we know where this guys stands and gets his information from.
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Would there be something wrong with tracking voters through social security numbers?
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