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Old September 13th, 2008, 09:47 AM   #1
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Default Did Anyone Watch Palin on 20/20 Last Night?

If so, what did you think?

What did you think of her answers on earmarks?
What did you think of her answers on stem cells?
What did you think of her answers on abortion?
What did you think of her answers on 2nd amendment?
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Old September 13th, 2008, 09:56 AM   #2
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I don't like her all that much. She seems very pleasant, but not a very good politician. That could be good or bad, but i'm pretty sure she would do better job of doing my laundry rather than helping to lead the country
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So, how many heads of state have Obama or Biden "negotiated with"?

A rock star tour of Europe, where you're received as a media celebrity is not "negotiating with foreign heads of state". If experience doing that is a prerequisite for office, I'm thinking that none are qualified.

Likewise, Dubya, Clinton, Reagan, Carter, etc... that preceded them.
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If so, what did you think?

What did you think of her answers on earmarks?
What did you think of her answers on stem cells?
What did you think of her answers on abortion?
What did you think of her answers on 2nd amendment?

She did fine on all of it.

Even with Gibson making up statistics.
70% of americans are against the Assault Weapons Ban.
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So, how many heads of state have Obama or Biden "negotiated with"?

A rock star tour of Europe, where you're received as a media celebrity is not "negotiating with foreign heads of state". If experience doing that is a prerequisite for office, I'm thinking that none are qualified.

Likewise, Dubya, Clinton, Reagan, Carter, etc... that preceded them.
So what did you think of the interview DMan? You are a well read and educated fellow, I really would like to hear your thoughts.

I am on the fence this election, I like McCain, but not so sure about Palin. I like Obamas charisma, but not sure what he really stands for.
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Old September 13th, 2008, 12:28 PM   #8
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Compare that to the videos here...

http://www.watchfreeepisodes.com/sar...o-online/2609/

The 20/20 episode videos are extremely edited.
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Compare that to the videos here...

http://www.watchfreeepisodes.com/sar...o-online/2609/

The 20/20 episode videos are extremely edited.
You could certainly tell that last night. Palin would finish a sentence, you could tell she was starting another one, and immediately the camera shifted back to charlie with another question.
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So what did you think of the interview DMan? You are a well read and educated fellow, I really would like to hear your thoughts.

I am on the fence this election, I like McCain, but not so sure about Palin. I like Obamas charisma, but not sure what he really stands for.
Same here, I'm leaning towards Obama just because he seems more honest. Other than that, I'm kind of lost. McCain seems to try making the war seem like it's going better than it really is though. That worries me.
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So what did you think of the interview DMan? You are a well read and educated fellow, I really would like to hear your thoughts.

I am on the fence this election, I like McCain, but not so sure about Palin. I like Obamas charisma, but not sure what he really stands for.
I only saw bits & pieces of the interview so I can't comment. The feedback I've read seem to reinforce what I thought it would be - big media's first chance to "expose" her...

Myself, McCain wouldn't be my first choice - it reminds me of running Dole against Clinton. It's like Dole (and now McCain) have "earned" their shot as a result of being a contender for such a long time. Granted, Dole (and Bush before him) would've handily beat Clinton had H. Ross not split the vote.

It's interesting how the media, in their outrage over Palin being selected, are basically evaluating the race as though she was running against Obama and not McCain. Biden (who's almost the same age as McCain) is getting a free pass through all this. No mention of his previous problems with truthfulness and plagarism, and apparently his age isn't an issue.

I don't like Obama for the following reasons:

1) He has some very liberal and unworkable views on a wide variety of topics
2) Thus far, his agenda seems to be "he's just like George Bush and I'm not". Okay, so who are YOU? This smacks of Clinton-style poss-chasing, where his principles are dictated by whatever generates the best focus-group response and poll / approval-rating numbers. I'll take principles over number-chasing any day.
3) He engages in class warfare ("tax cuts favoring the rich") that quickly falls apart other than making a good sound bite.
4) Too much Madison Avenue marketeering (i.e. general non-specific "change", "hope"). Throwing broad, positive themes out in a time of war and economic distress sounds good, but there's nothing to back it up.

An item that neither candidate need to be talking themselves up on is the economy. OK, so McCain, in a moment of public introspection, admitted that the economy isn't one of his strengths. I haven't seen anything economics-wise from Obama other than he's going to spend a megaton of money currying the favor of the lower to lower-middle classes while simultaneously lowering their taxes. Neither of you have "street cred" here.
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Biden (who's almost the same age as McCain) is getting a free pass through all this.
Biden is 65, McCain is 73. That's kinda like saying that the 10 year old girl is almost the same age as the 18 year old girl. I think I heard CC say that the other day though...never mind.
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Same here, I'm leaning towards Obama just because he seems more honest.
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I don't see Obama in that light at all, except for the facts he concedes to because he is too smart to attack. I like the guy, but only if he isn't president; IMHO, he needs more exposure to the political world.

And, again IMHO, black father/white mother does not equal an "African American" person -- it equals American. He is a half-breed, just like (most of) the rest of us "mutts" that live here. If elected, he will not be the first "black" president.
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Biden is 65, McCain is 73. That's kinda like saying that the 10 year old girl is almost the same age as the 18 year old girl. I think I heard CC say that the other day though...never mind.
Mike, how much time have you spent around the elderly? One thing that frustrates me beyond belief is when someone brings age into any discussion where the person's mental facilities are under scrutiny.

The candidates' are not running a marathon, appearing on American Gladiator or climbing Mt. Everest. We should pick a president based on many things, but physical strength is not a measure that denotes intelligence or wisdom.

McCain is my parents' age, and they are far from lame and senile, and my Grandmother (whom recently passed) was sharp as a tack at 93 when improper diagnosis of a health concern caused her kidneys to shut down, then the rest of her major organs.

Life is a journey, and we learn more as we progress. We all knew everything as teens, and look back (a bit older and wiser) at choices we've made in the past and know we could've done better. You may not see this yet - you're fairly young, armed with a degree and you are at the beginning of a long journey of learning life's lessons that only time can teach you.

IMHO, regardless of which candidate is better suited for the office of President, age IS a benefit.
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Same here, I'm leaning towards Obama just because he seems more honest. Other than that, I'm kind of lost. McCain seems to try making the war seem like it's going better than it really is though. That worries me.
You need to read up on Chicago and Illinois politics a little more.

8 things you need to know about Obama and a certain "Pay to Play" insider

When Obama gets elected, Patrick Fitzgerald will be gone within a year. Patrick Fitzgerald is non partisan and has put away many corrupt officials and influence peddlers in Chicago and IL. He is now close to putting away Daley and Blagojevich. Obama has never once come out against the well known corruption in Chicago, because Daley backs him.

There is plenty more here, including ties to the IL Republican Party, who also wants Fitzgerald out and is feeding at the same trough as the Dems in IL. Also, the fact that Obama became US senator because the the IL Republican party refused to back Peter Fitzgerald (no relation) in retaliation for Bringing the US Prosecutor to IL.

Don't have time to draw out the rest of the dots for you to connect them right now, but I'll try to post some more later.
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Biden is 65, McCain is 73. That's kinda like saying that the 10 year old girl is almost the same age as the 18 year old girl. I think I heard CC say that the other day though...never mind.

When your 22 and she is 17 she is your friends sister.
When your 50 and she's 44, she's a trophy you show off to your friends.

When you get older it matters less, it's relative.
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Watched part of the second segment and clips of the rest.

Just not impressed enough to consider her VP material.

Seemed very elusive on specifics. Seemed like a lot of "canned" answers from the cram sessions she has received over the last couple of weeks.

p.s. This is based solely on what was shown from the interview. I realize there is editing, but that does not explain everything. I am not comparing her to anyone else involved in the race. I am staying on topic of this thread.
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Mike, how much time have you spent around the elderly? One thing that frustrates me beyond belief is when someone brings age into any discussion where the person's mental facilities are under scrutiny.

The candidates' are not running a marathon, appearing on American Gladiator or climbing Mt. Everest. We should pick a president based on many things, but physical strength is not a measure that denotes intelligence or wisdom.

McCain is my parents' age, and they are far from lame and senile, and my Grandmother (whom recently passed) was sharp as a tack at 93 when improper diagnosis of a health concern caused her kidneys to shut down, then the rest of her major organs.

Life is a journey, and we learn more as we progress. We all knew everything as teens, and look back (a bit older and wiser) at choices we've made in the past and know we could've done better. You may not see this yet - you're fairly young, armed with a degree and you are at the beginning of a long journey of learning life's lessons that only time can teach you.

IMHO, regardless of which candidate is better suited for the office of President, age IS a benefit.

Scooter, I agree with you on the age issue. My folks are 81 and 80 and they are still fully capable of living productive lives. As many in the Michigan wheeling community can attest to, they are both physically and mentally sharp for people in their 50's, let alone in their 80's.

But using them, or you folks as examples of why we should leave McCains age out of the public debate is, well, an insult to reality.

Do I think my father is going to live as long and strong as his parents? I surely hope so, that way I get to keep him around a lot longer still.

Do I hope my mother follows in the foot steps of many of her relative breaking the 100 mark, yep.

But that does not mean it will happen. I understand and accept that. I know both of them have slowed down. I have seen the signs of diminished capacity, however slight.

I have also see people in their 60's exhibit signs of diminished capacity.

I hope McCain continues to live a long and productive life, I really do, partisanship aside. But I also know he is getting up there. So his ability to continue and his mortality is fair game. Statistically he is more likely to die or become diminished by natural causes than his opponent. Hard simple truth.

Look at Reagan, his diminished capacity was kept from the American public, and although the administrations decisions did not adversely affect the country and the world, I found great concern that someone who was not elected may have been making far reaching decisions.
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Although I doubt he watched it. It is easier to point out the sliver in someone elses eye when you arent looking at the plank in your own.....
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