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Old August 28th, 2008, 06:57 PM   #1
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Default Would you buy an '03 6.0L PSD?

Or would you stay away - stick with 99-01 ish 7.3L? Reliability/cost of ownership -wise.
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Old August 28th, 2008, 07:05 PM   #2
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check the history of the 03. the early 6.0s had a LOT of issues with the glow plug wiring and AC lines. seems they chaffed on the valve covers. if they've all been done and covered, you're probably good.

another big issue was the early transmissions didn't have a hardened snap ring for the reverse gear. when it broke, reverse engaged and it would shoot it out and crack the case. if it hasn't happened yet, the PO was either REALLY lucky, or....
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Old August 28th, 2008, 07:54 PM   #3
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Run an oasis report on the truck if you have the vin number (somebody at www.thedieselgarage.com will do it for free for you). That will tell you the service history of the truck and let you know if it has been a problem child or not.

The 03 and early build 04 6.0's had quite a few problems, and I would be nervouse about buying one. I own a 2004 6.0 F-250 and it has been flawless, I am the second owner. It is a late build 04, so all of the problems that the early ones suffered have been taken care of. The only work that has been done to my truck was something with the EGR, and that was before I owned it.

If you can swing it, go for an 05 or newer 6.0 f-250 or F-350...none of the problems of the ealry ones, it has the new coil spring front end intead of the leafs of the previous models, and the looks are a lot better IMO (updated grill, headlights, and interior).
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Old August 28th, 2008, 08:08 PM   #4
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I guess people are still paying on loans for the 05+ trucks because the prices are sky high still. Ill probably stick with a late 7.3L truck.
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Old August 28th, 2008, 08:53 PM   #5
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buy my Dodge. :) you'd rather be Cummin than Stroking anyways.

seriously, though, i like the Fords, too. the new silverados are nice, but the "old" 98-06 ones got a little old pretty quickly...
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Old August 28th, 2008, 11:18 PM   #6
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i love my 03 7.3 psd. i didnt want any of the hassle of the 6.0 so i looked around till i found a real nice 7.3

so to answer your question.....no and thats goes for all the 6.0's imo
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I bought a 2000 7.3L because I couldn't get into a 05+ 6.0 . .. I wouldn't touch an early one.
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I would buy an 03 or 04 that has 150K+ miles on it and has been trouble free, then immediately do headstuds and EGR delete.

the 6.0s need to be worked. People who daily drive them without towing are going to have turbo/EGR problems. The vanes on the turbo need to travel the full path to "clean". Daily driving won't do this. 05s and later have different software to dither the turbo on startup/shutdown to clean out the turbos.
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Stay with a 7.3. I would also look south for one, I bought mine in KY and not a spec of rust anywhere. Still looks brand new. Definatly worth the 7 hr drive.
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Old August 30th, 2008, 09:43 PM   #10
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If you buy 7.3 psd look close at oil pan! if there is any scaling at all, walk away. I am on my 3rd oil pan on my 2001 PSD, and two of my friends are on there third! Also they are famous for glow plug wiring circuit problems, expensive transmissions, and there is a cup in the head around the injectors that has broke in two of mine, the only way you know its bad is diesel fuel starts spitting out the radiator overflow, because the fuel is under higher pressure and the cup seperates the injector from the coolant!!

Go with cummins!!!! I have had three all with over 200k and the only thing to watch for is fuel pressure( install a guage) which is a worry on most diesels!!
You don't here to much about PSD swaps!!! there is reason people use cummins!!!
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Old September 1st, 2008, 06:21 PM   #11
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The only reason Im not considering dodge is I want a full size crew cab and the mega cab didnt come out until I think 06 <== out of my price range still. I know the cummins is a cool engine, but ford sold (and continues to sell) a whole shitstack of PSD trucks they cant be all that bad
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I've had a few Ford diesels, myself 4 and my fleet at work 8. I never had so many problems with a diesel as I did and still do with a 6.0 PSD. I had a 05 with 11,000 blow up in my driveway because of head bolts, they ALL have problems 03-06. I still have 4- 6.4 PSD and 2- 6.0 at work but thats job securty for me. I now drive a Dodge mega cab with the new 6.7 Cummins and love it. I still like the looks of the super duty but not the engines. Good luck and if you really want a Ford go with a 7.3 PSD.
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I would buy an 03 or 04 that has 150K+ miles on it and has been trouble free, then immediately do headstuds and EGR delete.

the 6.0s need to be worked. People who daily drive them without towing are going to have turbo/EGR problems. The vanes on the turbo need to travel the full path to "clean". Daily driving won't do this. 05s and later have different software to dither the turbo on startup/shutdown to clean out the turbos.
agreed....I would buy a 03 or 04 as well as long as the oasis doesnt look to bad. Whats the worse thing that will happen to a 6.0L...head gaskets, not a big deal people change those all the time....a turbo, I can swap a turbo on a 6.0L in under a hour and a half. You can change out all 8 injectors in about 8 hours. I know the 6.0L had a bad rap sheet, but I still love them. If you learn how to tweak them, and understand there weaknesses they are a strong running engine. Not to mention the Torqshift is still my favorite trans! The best thing you can do to any 6.0L is to remove the EGR cooler.
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I have an '04 and my brother has a '05 and we would both go back to our 7.3s in a heartbeat.They have not been complete pieces of shit but the little issues they have and the terrible fuel economy are kind of annoying when you spend 40-50 grand.You should not have to do injectors,turbos,remove or clean egr parts,and replace headgaskets on a motor you just paid over 5K for as an option.My opinion is stick with a 7.3 with a manual trans.
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agreed....I would buy a 03 or 04 as well as long as the oasis doesnt look to bad. Whats the worse thing that will happen to a 6.0L...head gaskets, not a big deal people change those all the time....a turbo, I can swap a turbo on a 6.0L in under a hour and a half. You can change out all 8 injectors in about 8 hours. I know the 6.0L had a bad rap sheet, but I still love them. If you learn how to tweak them, and understand there weaknesses they are a strong running engine. Not to mention the Torqshift is still my favorite trans! The best thing you can do to any 6.0L is to remove the EGR cooler.
Why?

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Because the piece of shit will rot out and dump your coolant into the exhaust creating one helluva smoke screen,and leave your shit stranded in Canada for three weeks.
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Old September 14th, 2008, 09:50 AM   #17
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i drive an 06 superdudy with the 6.0 it`s a turd. i`ve replaced 8 injectors and 2 turbo`s and it`s still junk won`t pull a dead h@#$% of the piss pot. i asked the guy at the dealership what`s up with this motor he said their junk.
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my dad's '04 F250 with the 6.0 runs like a champ and he has never had a problem with it
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Old September 14th, 2008, 11:21 AM   #19
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Would you buy an '03 6.0L PSD?
I did, but before I knew about the problems.

If I had to do it over, I would have gotten a late 02 or early 03 with a 7.3.
No, that's not a misprint. The 6.0 was not ready in time, so for about a month or so Ford built 03's with the 7.3.

Also, on 4WD models, only 350 dual rear wheel models got the Dana 60 front axle, with 250's and 350 single rear wheel models getting the Dana 50 front, UNTIL a mid year change in 02 when all models got the Dana 60 front.

So a late 02, or very early 03 will get you the better 7.3 and the Dana 60 front. :)
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