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Old August 6th, 2008, 09:02 PM   #1
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Has anyone ever flat towed a jeep? Me and a buddy put one on my 5 and it goes strait down the road. When it comes time to turn the wheels stay strait. And before you write and tell me to unlock the steering wheel i did, also the hubs. It has a set of bran new military tires on it and there only 7" wide could that be part of the problem?
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Old August 6th, 2008, 09:45 PM   #2
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I tow my cj-5 with 33x12.50x15s behind my half ton truck all the time,never had a problem. Is the caster of the front axle correct? Any shims under the leaf springs to change pinion angle will also affect caster. How long is the towbar,and what are you towing it with?
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Old August 6th, 2008, 10:17 PM   #3
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How long is the tow bar, and where does it mount on the front of the Jeep. If the mounts are too close it won't turn very well. They should be roughly in line with the Frame rails.

Also, is the Tow bar relatively level, if its at a huge angle you won't like the results.


also does the jeep like to turn on its own, because it will only tow as well as it drives. And the lighter the Tow rig the more you're going to feel it fight back
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Old August 7th, 2008, 06:42 PM   #5
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It's just a regular tow bar. Mounted to front frame rails being pulled by ford expedition. Tow bar angles down a little but not much. Front axle turns fine i guess when running never tried when engine was off. Front end has never been touched as far as i know.
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Old August 7th, 2008, 07:30 PM   #6
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It's just a regular tow bar. Mounted to front frame rails being pulled by ford expedition. Tow bar angles down a little but not much. Front axle turns fine i guess when running never tried when engine was off. Front end has never been touched as far as i know.
Well its either in the Jeep or you're expecting too much out of a tow bar
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Old August 7th, 2008, 07:44 PM   #7
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you do have the transfer case in netural right?? which do you have manual steering, power steering box or hydro cylinder steeribg ??? normal height or lifted?? Ok when you drive it down the road and let go of the steering wheel does it go straight or slow goes right??? this is s gas model stariaght 6 or 4??

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you do have the transfer case in netural right?? check and manual sterring, power box, or hydro cylinder sterribg ??? normal height or lifted?? Ok when you srive it down the road and let go of the steering wheel does it go straight or slow goes right??? this is s gas model stariaght 6 or 4??
Wow.
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you do have the transfer case in netural right??

Since he has his front hubs unlocked, that couldn't contribute to steering probs since there wouldn't be a connection. Oiling maybe, but not steering

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this is s gas model stariaght 6 or 4??

wait... what? Weight is the only angle I can see you're going with this question...? But I'm cornfused?
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Old August 7th, 2008, 09:27 PM   #11
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I don't know what that would have to do with it but fyi Amc 360.
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Old August 7th, 2008, 09:29 PM   #12
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I would say yes. Yes we are
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Well sorry for the confusment I read the handle being used Thinking that someone might have put in a diesel motor in a light ass vechile. adding a lot of weight to the front axle causing a problem with the towing. One can not persume something. It should half way be understandable where I'm leading to. I have not every seen the vecihle that was beening towed. so I can not look into the majic ball and see it. so I have to ask questions. Like what has been done to the vecihle. has been modified not evrything is included with the first post a little detail about what you are doing would clear things up. I have seen some very strange thing being towed down the road. Oh sorry about some of the spelling big fingeres hitting the wrong keys.
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Naw, I'm confused ALL the time It's something I've grown to live with...
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Well sorry for the confusment I read the handle being used Thinking that someone might have put in a diesel motor in a light ass vechile. adding a lot of weight to the front axle causing a problem with the towing. One can not persume something. It should half way be understandable where I'm leading to. I have not every seen the vecihle that was beening towed. so I can not look into the majic ball and see it. so I have to ask questions. Like what has been done to the vecihle. has been modified not evrything is included with the first post a little detail about what you are doing would clear things up. I have seen some very strange thing being towed down the road. Oh sorry about some of the spelling big fingeres hitting the wrong keys.

So swapping in a diesel enine that is 250 lbs heavier than the stock motor is a very very bad idea?
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So swapping in a diesel enine that is 250 lbs heavier than the stock motor is a very very bad idea?
With the wrong springs can do strange things. Then add a heavier bumper to pull it with, who knows what else could have been added to the front?? That can add to alot more than 250 lbs than stock. Beside I just asked some details before I chime in with some off the wall suggestions of where a problem could be. Realy guys think. If you go into a shop with a problem they ask questions so what is so different here. I might not have an answer with what I ask but could ring a bell for someone else. But then again asking is like pulling teeth around here.
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With the wrong springs can do strange things. Then add a heavier bumper to pull it with, who knows what else could have been added to the front?? That can add to alot more than 250 lbs than stock. Beside I just asked some details before I chime in with some off the wall suggestions of where a problem could be. Realy guys think. If you go into a shop with a problem they ask questions so what is so different here. I might not have an answer with what I ask but could ring a bell for someone else. But then again asking is like pulling teeth around here.
They ask questions because you brought it to a shop which means you don't know much . . . that's usually about 5% of the time here so thanks for annoying us the other 95% of the time
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