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Old July 11th, 2008, 08:51 PM   #21
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assuming we dont go down in a fiery inferno with kunta kinte Hussein Obama at the wheel.
You're shaping up like quite the mental midget like the spooner in your avatar
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Old July 11th, 2008, 11:10 PM   #22
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You're shaping up like quite the mental midget like the spooner in your avatar
fuck you, hippie.
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Old July 12th, 2008, 01:47 PM   #23
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Old July 12th, 2008, 03:09 PM   #24
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since a lot of people here are all for staying over there for a little while, i'm now taking signatures for sub-contracting my contract in the Marines. We'll be deploying again in 2010 so hurry up and get in while you can... first come first serve.
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Old July 12th, 2008, 07:03 PM   #25
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Almost as soon as the war began in March 2003, Obama had second thoughts about his opposition to it. Watching the dram atic footage of the toppling of Saddam’s statue in Baghdad, and then the President’s speech aboard the U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln, “I began to suspect,” he would write later in his autobiographical The Audacity of Hope (2006), “that I might have been wrong.” And these second thoughts seem to have stayed with him throughout the entire first phase of the occupation following our initial combat victory. As he told the Chicago Tribune in July 2004, “There’s not that much difference between my position and George Bush’s position at this stage.”

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Old July 13th, 2008, 11:23 AM   #26
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Almost as soon as the war began in March 2003, Obama had second thoughts about his opposition to it. Watching the dram atic footage of the toppling of Saddam’s statue in Baghdad, and then the President’s speech aboard the U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln, “I began to suspect,” he would write later in his autobiographical The Audacity of Hope (2006), “that I might have been wrong.” And these second thoughts seem to have stayed with him throughout the entire first phase of the occupation following our initial combat victory. As he told the Chicago Tribune in July 2004, “There’s not that much difference between my position and George Bush’s position at this stage.”

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That's awesome. I did realize that him and I thought so much alike. I too thought the invasion of Iraq was a bad idea from the start, but began to wonder if I was wrong and that it might just be successful. Now I'm pretty much back to thinking it was a bad idea.

It takes wisdom, intelligence, and integrity to see that you were wrong and publicly admit it. Those are the qualities that I think are missing from most politicians.
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Old July 13th, 2008, 04:42 PM   #27
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That's awesome. I did realize that him and I thought so much alike. I too thought the invasion of Iraq was a bad idea from the start, but began to wonder if I was wrong and that it might just be successful. Now I'm pretty much back to thinking it was a bad idea.

It takes wisdom, intelligence, and integrity to see that you were wrong and publicly admit it. Those are the qualities that I think are missing from most politicians.
Maybe you could be vice president.
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Old July 26th, 2008, 11:51 AM   #28
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That's awesome. I did realize that him and I thought so much alike. I too thought the invasion of Iraq was a bad idea from the start, but began to wonder if I was wrong and that it might just be successful. Now I'm pretty much back to thinking it was a bad idea.

It takes wisdom, intelligence, and integrity to see that you were wrong and publicly admit it. Those are the qualities that I think are missing from most politicians.

I was watching the newsthe other night, they where talking about Oppy and how he said the troup serge wouldn't work.

Everbody seems to be in agreement that it did work.

Except Oppy.

I guess the wisdom, intelligence, and integrity to see that your wrong and publicly admit it have slipped away.

If it ever exsisted.
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Old July 26th, 2008, 04:20 PM   #29
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since a lot of people here are all for staying over there for a little while, i'm now taking signatures for sub-contracting my contract in the Marines. We'll be deploying again in 2010 so hurry up and get in while you can... first come first serve.
Why did you enlist?
I don't remember the draft......
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Old July 29th, 2008, 09:10 AM   #30
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Having a plan for strategic redeployment is part of all military planning.
It's an integral part of the "mission" statement.
We had one in Vietnam.
The opposing forces had their plan for our redeployment in place at the same time.
Their plan was better timed, and executed than ours.
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That's awesome. I did realize that him and I thought so much alike. I too thought the invasion of Iraq was a bad idea from the start, but began to wonder if I was wrong and that it might just be successful. Now I'm pretty much back to thinking it was a bad idea.

It takes wisdom, intelligence, and integrity to see that you were wrong and publicly admit it. Those are the qualities that I think are missing from most politicians.
I heard on the news today that Oppy has again shown his wisdom, intellegence, and integrity, by changing his mind on the number and type of debates to have with John McCain.
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That's awesome. I did realize that him and I thought so much alike. I too thought the invasion of Iraq was a bad idea from the start, but began to wonder if I was wrong and that it might just be successful. Now I'm pretty much back to thinking it was a bad idea.

It takes wisdom, intelligence, and integrity to see that you were wrong and publicly admit it. Those are the qualities that I think are missing from most politicians.


More news from the wisdom, intellegence, and integrity front line, Oppy has now said all of my loving delegates from Michigan should be heard.

Can you say, about face.
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That's awesome. I did realize that him and I thought so much alike. I too thought the invasion of Iraq was a bad idea from the start, but began to wonder if I was wrong and that it might just be successful. Now I'm pretty much back to thinking it was a bad idea.

It takes wisdom, intelligence, and integrity to see that you were wrong and publicly admit it. Those are the qualities that I think are missing from most politicians.

The latest from the land of intellegence, wisdom, and integrity.

stockpiles By TOM RAUM, Associated Press Writer
5 minutes ago



LANSING, Mich. - Barack Obama put forward a broad energy plan Monday designed to end U.S. reliance on imported oil within 10 years and shore up his standing amid a tightening White House race and high-anxiety over gas prices.

Obama's new proposal, though, includes two significant reversals of positions he has taken in the past: He had steadfastly fought the idea of limited new offshore drilling and was against tapping the nation's emergency oil stockpile to relieve pump prices that have stubbornly hovered around $4 a gallon.

Not only did Obama push for drawing from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, he also reiterated his changing position on offshore drilling — first revealed last Friday — suggesting that he could live with it if done in an environmentally sound way and as part of a bipartisan energy compromise









I'm kinda thinking this is a weak dick with no clear idea on what to do.
or
Lets just try to go with public opinion so i can get elected.
or
I'm a liberal dem that never makes a decission or sticks to a position.
or
No firm position is never a wrong position.




Do you still think it's awsome that you guy's think alike?????
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