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Old July 9th, 2008, 06:53 AM   #41
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I would never own a 6.5 diesel worthless piece of shit!
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Old July 9th, 2008, 09:08 AM   #42
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There is not a lot of magic going on. Disc brakes are what they are, (except anti-lock), and size matters. They only feel better because they are new.
You're right size does matter, the brakes on the 1/2 ton are bigger that's why they stop better. The rear disc brakes also make a big difference.
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Old July 9th, 2008, 09:18 AM   #43
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The rear disc brakes also make a big difference.
Rear discs are an unbelievable improvement, can be the difference between stop and not.
The rest is a roll of the dice, I'm just saying use the proper tool for the job.
On the other hand, thats why we carry insurance.
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Old July 9th, 2008, 09:53 AM   #44
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I can't compare or discuss a deisel because I have no experience with one. I can just say that for the amount I tow I couldn't justify the difference in cost.

However, I can discuss 1/2 ton to 3/4 ton. I've had and towed with both. I had a 2000 1/2 ton with a 5.3 w/3.73 gears. It had a hard time staying in overdrive and seemed very under powered towing my jeep on a flat bed. I had a 2004 2500HD crew cab with a 6.0 & 4.10 gears. Towed great. Rode like shit and the daily around town mileage dropped from 16-17 to 12-13. At the same time I moved to an enclosed trailer for the jeep. Still towed good. But, since I only tow once in a while as compared to driving it every day and alot of out of town business trips, I thought it was not practical.

I went to a 2007 1/2 ton with the Chevy Vortec Max 6.0 & 4.10 gears. Now I have what I consider a perfect tow rig. It still has the power that the HD had but the ride like a 1/2 ton should. It still has a great ride, a 10,000 towing capacity and FAR BETTER BRAKES than the earlier 1/2 ton has. Note, I never am putting any payload in it so I don't need the stiffer springs. The brakes will stop my 20ft enclosed trailer with the jeep in it exceedingly well, even with the trailer brakes turned off. I had an instance while going to the mounds a couple weeks ago where a guy suddenly decided to turn left in front of me. I slammed on the brakes and the antilocks did their job allowing me to swerve around him totally under control. I am a firm believer in equalizer hitches and will always use one. If you've never tried one, you should. It's worth the money.

RE the pic above showing a flipped trailer. Who says it has anything to do with it being a half ton? Was the trailer balanced properly? Equalizer hitch? Electric brake failure? There are a dozen reasons why it may have flipped & none of them have anything to do with the rating of the truck.

Here's a pic of my 2500HD off the road with my trailer. Shit..... maybe it would have saved me if I had a 1 ton dually with a diesel.
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Here's a pic of my 2500HD off the road with my trailer. Shit..... maybe it would have saved me if I had a 1 ton dually with a diesel.
That sux.
Sometimes you do everything right and "bad" just happens.
Other times you do everthing wrong and it works like it shouldn't.
Rolling the dice.
The only thing I've seen work 100/100 on ice is studs or chains.

But this has gone way off topic....
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Thats okay stevie, you don't have to cry.
When you grow up, and get a real job you can get a big truck like daddy.

why is it the guys with little dicks are the ones that say penis size doesn't matter!!
I was Crying on behalf of your parents, must have been hard for them to raise a retard. I graduate in 5 months, I bet i make more my first year out than you made this year. heres a pic of my grad present.
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RE the pic above showing a flipped trailer. Who says it has anything to do with it being a half ton? Was the trailer balanced properly? Equalizer hitch? Electric brake failure? There are a dozen reasons why it may have flipped & none of them have anything to do with the rating of the truck.

I'm just fuckin around. That was a steep pass and my guess is he was going way faster than he should have been (traffic was flowing at 80) and had to do some sort of maneuver which resulted in an over correction. I just like to give the half ton guys shit to boost my own tattered ego


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Shit..... maybe it would have saved me if I had a 1 ton dually with a diesel.

Yes it would have. Mine has never sent me off the road...









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I would never own a 6.5 diesel worthless piece of shit!
the trucks the 6.5 came in were great trucks. the best thing to do with a 6.5 is to replace it with a cummins.



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the trucks the 6.5 came in were great trucks. the best thing to do with a 6.5 is to replace it with a cummins.


The best thing to do with any motor that doesn't say Cummins is to replace it with a Cummins...



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Old July 9th, 2008, 11:37 AM   #50
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heres a pic of my grad present.

Grad present?
Please stop, that's funny.
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When are the new industry standard tow ratings going to go into use?
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Old July 9th, 2008, 05:29 PM   #52
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There is not a lot of magic going on. Disc brakes are what they are, (except anti-lock), and size matters. They only feel better because they are new.
No shit dummy, newer half tons have better brakes then older half tons. They also have better suspensions, as much or more power, and ride better....do you get it yet?

Yes a same year 3/4 ton will out tow a same year half ton every day....
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Yes a 3/4 ton will out tow a half ton every day....
There, I fixed it for you.



It's about GCWR.
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Old July 9th, 2008, 05:58 PM   #54
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215,000 miles and my 6.5 is still running great. its quiet and rides great. dont hate the playa. hate the game.
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Old July 9th, 2008, 07:34 PM   #55
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There, I fixed it for you.



It's about GCWR.
your a retard
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your a retard
Just because you ignore facts, they do not cease to exist.

Name calling is the last desperate act in an argument lost.
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There, I fixed it for you.



It's about GCWR.
Based upon what? Towing a jeep on a trailer or towing a 42ft gooseneck? His original question states that he will only tow 10% of the time. He has not said what he plans to tow but I think most everyone is assuming something like a jeep on a trailer. If the package fits within the GCWR, spending extra money just to say he has a 3/4 ton is a waste of money.
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Just because you ignore facts, they do not cease to exist.

Name calling is the last desperate act in an argument lost.
Yes, your right, you win. Your 1990 3/4 will out tow a brand new half ton any day, and ride better, and has a stronger frame, and better motor, and will get better mileage doing it. I am sorry
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my 03 1500 Ram with the 5.7 tows PERFECT.. so far biggest load.. s10 3 quads and 5 people.. didnt break a sweat felt perfect at 75 and brakes were up to par !
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I answered my own question, I got the truck of my dreams, i love the 7.3 Diesel:) 100% stock now, wont be at the end of the month
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