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Old July 1st, 2008, 11:21 PM   #1
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i currently have a AOD trans in a Ranger and i dont like the trans, i need something stronger. I realized i dont even use the OD gear. This is a 4x4 truck. Would swapping in a c4 or a c6 make me have to change driveshaft lengths? Do c4 or c6's use a TV kickdown like the AOD does?
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Old July 1st, 2008, 11:40 PM   #2
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I went from a c6 to an aod in my ranger and the two were very similar in length. The AOD case is about 3/16" longer than the C6 Case. From there it all depends on the extension housing lenghts and the t-case you are using. But on mine all I had to change was the transmission crossmember and that was it.

The c6 uses engine vacuum and a modulator to sense engine load and control the shift points. There also had a mechanical kick down lever that would force it into the next lower gear when the throttle went full open.
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is there any way to make the c6 fully manual? My shifter works for it and itd be nice to select the gear i want.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 11:33 AM   #4
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A c-4 will take approx 45 hp to opperate...and a c-6 takes approx 70 hp.....Or so I'm told.

So if you have a 302 I'd stck with the little c-4....but if you have plains for a built 351w in your future...then a c-6 is the stongest way to go....
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i have a small bell off a c4, will this fit a c6?
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C-6 trannies dont have a detachable bell. They're one piece housings.
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c4 is going to be harder to find and more expensive. A c4 will need to be run with a d20 tcase unless you buy an expensive adapter or rig one up. C6's came in plenty of trucks.

you can make either manual depending on the valve body you run.
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I'd sacrifice some HP for all of the added strength the C6 has.. C6s can handle some serious HP when built properly..Same can be said for the C4 but availability, adaptability and cost is always my #1 concern
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is there any way to make the c6 fully manual? My shifter works for it and itd be nice to select the gear i want.
Yes, there are manual valve bodies available for the c6 in either forward or reverse patterns. I got mine for my big block c6 from www.broaderperformance.com out of southern Texas. Fair prices and very helpful.
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im running a stock 302 ina 4x4 ranger except for a 4bbl intake and carb and headers..id like a c6 for the durability but the c4 would work too..whatever i can find for sale is what ill get.
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I know where there is a rebuilt ( 250 mile ) 4x4 c4 for $300 ??

And an older 302 for $200...since your always looking ...
PM me ...if interested ???
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