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Old April 27th, 2008, 08:09 PM   #21
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Sorry but I am a little confused this was just a hearing on the 17th? Now they decide on future hearings and/or a final vote at a later date?

How come the house can pass it 107-0 and it takes so much more to get it through the senate?

I dropped $238 at one gas station in Prudenville this weekend, left $50 more in St. Helen. Trailered the bikes to the trail heads and never left the ORV loops all weekend. I still cannot wait to be able to ride from my cabin in West Branch on Ski Park some day to the trail heads that would be fantastic.
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Old April 27th, 2008, 08:32 PM   #22
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see here again you are preaching to the choir. I can only relay the info as it comes as well as TF. the trick here is to send what you just told me to Senator Birkholz. SHE is the one holding up the whole process. she is the head of the commity incharge of reveiwing the bill. she wanted to reveiw it for about TWENTY Years as it was explained to me after it made it past the house.

here is all the current info the state has posted. it has links to all the people involved. PLEASE E mail and or call to let them know you are still out there and waiting for this to pass.

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(32l...e=2007-HB-4323
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Old April 27th, 2008, 09:54 PM   #23
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I see the sponsors of the bill listed on that page. Where can I find the senators that need the emails? It's passed the House anyways right.
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Old April 28th, 2008, 05:27 AM   #24
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Old April 28th, 2008, 09:02 AM   #25
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Sen. Birkholz runs all her committees in two phases. She brings up a bill and takes testimony on it one week, and then either the next week or a couple weeks thereafter she brings the bill up again and votes on it.

This gives her and the other committee members time to process and review the testimony and gather any more information they need from the testifiers or policy analysts before making a decision on it.

At this point, hounding her on the bill will not do much good, and will most likely serve only to annoy her. Yes, she needs to hear from constituents, but harassing emails and phone calls are not very productive. If you feel you must do something, contact the other members of the committee, as they are the ones that will be voting:

Sen. Bruce Patterson
Sen. Jerry Van Woerkom
Sen. Ray Basham
Sen. Mike Prusi
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Old April 28th, 2008, 11:25 AM   #26
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thanks guys I will try that.
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Old June 9th, 2008, 05:11 PM   #27
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FINALLY
HB 4323 COMMITTEE VOTE
JUNE 11TH


Michigan Motorized Recreation Council
June 4, 2008
For Immediate Release:

We have been informed HB 4323 is expected to be on the agenda of the Senate
Committee of Natural Resources and Environmental Affairs meeting for a vote on, Wednesday, June 11th, 2008.

See final draft in separate mailing. We have six days to act!

We strongly urge each of you to contact not less than five people and make certain they send an e-mail of support to the following members of the committee;

Chair: Senator Patricia Birkholz (R) District 24 www.senpbirkholz@senate.michigan.gov

Vice-Chair: Senator Gerald Van Woerkom (R) District 34 www.sengvanwoerkom@senate.michigan.gov

Senator Bruce Patterson (R) District 7
www.senbpatterson@senate.michigan.gov

Senator Raymond E. Basham (D) District 8
www.senrbasham@senate.michigan.gov

Senator Michael Prusi (D) District 38
www.senmprusi@senate.michigan.gov

HB 4323 is near completion, contact your Senator in support.

Michigan Motorized Recreation Council public releases are the results of roundtable discussions by the leaders of the major ORV organizations in Michigan , representing over 20,000 members. For additional information, contact Dick Ranney @ 989 469-2405.
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Old June 10th, 2008, 08:35 PM   #28
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Done to all and homeboy sen Jansen.
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Old June 11th, 2008, 11:52 PM   #29
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5-0 VOTE IN SUPPORT OF HB 4323

June 11, 2008
Michigan Motorized Recreation Council
FOR IMMEDIATE REALEASE:




In today’s meeting of the Senate Committee of Natural Resources and Environmental Affairs, on the agenda was the vote on HB 4323, passing by a vote of “5-0 for recommendation to adopt” to the full Senate.

With legislators planning recess at the close of business on June 26th, there may be time for the bill to be acted upon, but the schedule is very tight. If action is not taken by the 26th, it will be dealt with when legislators reconvene in fall.

We are now done with amendments and it’s been a long path, sixteen amendments since the first Draft in an effort to satisfy everyone.

We now have just two hoops left to get through in Lansing, the Senate floor vote and the Governor’s signature. Then to the County level for ordinance adoption.

Please watch for a release within 24-48 hours from Michigan Motorized Recreation Council for our next plan of action.




Michigan Motorized Recreation Council public releases are the results of roundtable discussions by the leaders of major ORV organizations in Michigan, representing over 20,000 members. For additional information, contact Dick Ranney, Coordinator @ 989 469-2405.
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Old June 12th, 2008, 08:42 AM   #30
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cool glad to hear Pat
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Old June 13th, 2008, 09:45 AM   #31
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Just an FYI....we will not be out of session completely from June 26 to the fall. We (the legislators; I still have to be here) have a couple week break scheduled around the 4th. Then, they will be back in session on and off during July and August.

So, there's still a possibility that this will get taken up this summer. It is low on the priority list, however, considering we're also dealing with the following hot topic items:

-budget
-smoking ban
-energy reform (monopoly by consumers/DTE vs competition from small companies)


and yes, it's true, legislators can't walk and chew gum at the same time, so they insist on finishing one major item before moving on to the next. makes for a ridiculously slow process sometimes.
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Old June 13th, 2008, 09:49 AM   #32
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Emails sent to all involved expressing my lack of support for a bill that allows dirtbikes and quads to act like the asshats on snowmobiles do.
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Smoking Ban?!

They want to make me - an otherwise honest and hard working citizen - into a criminal just because I'm addicted to nicotine???

Time to write a non-wheeling letter!

To borrow UP Rocktoy's adjective . . .

Asshats.
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smoking isn't the half of it. theres a bill waiting before the senate to ban cell phones! ..well in hand behind the wheel at least.
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Smoking Ban?!

They want to make me - an otherwise honest and hard working citizen - into a criminal just because I'm addicted to nicotine???

Time to write a non-wheeling letter!

To borrow UP Rocktoy's adjective . . .

Asshats.
Now before you get your panties in a bunch...it's only banning it in workplaces, including bars and restaurants. You'll still be able to light up in your jeep, with a sheep, in your house, with a mouse, on a pail, down a trail, all while eating green eggs and ham

You will not be a criminal just for smoking a cancer stick a few times a day. The choice to kill yourself is yours; we are just taking away your ability to kill those of us who want to eat and drink without coughing from second hand smoke. :tonka:


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smoking isn't the half of it. theres a bill waiting before the senate to ban cell phones! ..well in hand behind the wheel at least.
yeah...not sure if this will go anywhere...we have too many legislators themselves who would have issues if this went through. It would allow handsfree devices, which in theory isn't a bad idea, but it's still big brother. We should ban putting on makeup, having kids in the car, eating and listening to the radio if we're going to ban cell phones.
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We should ban putting on makeup, having kids in the car, eating and listening to the radio if we're going to ban cell phones.
You and I have had more than one disagreement but this isn't one of them.

If you're going to ban cell phones, on top of what you have listed we should ban:
gps
heater controls
don't allow anyone to drop anything they have to reach for
no talking, especially argueing
smoking
assortment of cd's to search through
maps
written directions
back seat drivers
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Bottom line, a person needs to be responsible and pay attention.
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June 24, 2008
MICHIGAN MOTORIZED RECREATION COUNCIL
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:



Legislative sessions end at the close of business on Thursday, June 26th for summer recess.

HB 4323 passed the House Committee by a vote of 11-0, the House by 107-0, passed Senate Committee by a vote of 5-0. It now has to pass the Senate floor by a majority and the signature of the Governor to become law.

We need you and all your contacts, to e-mail or call YOUR Senator NOW and urge the Senate to take up HB 4323 this week.

WE DO NOT WANT TO WAIT UNTIL LEGISLATURE RECONVENES AFTER LABOR DAY FOR THIS BILL TO BE ACTED UPON. YOUR VOICE NEEDS TO BE HEARD IN LANSING BY YOUR SENATOR IN SUPPORT OF HB 4323!

Contact must be made no later than Wednesday evening.
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The bastards snuck one by us!

its sitting on Jenny's desk right now!

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presented to the Governor 7/7/2008 @ 3:44 PM
we should know in the next week if she will sign it!
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Old July 14th, 2008, 10:54 PM   #39
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The bastards snuck one by us! its sitting on Jenny's desk right now! we should know in the next week if she will sign it!
Has anyone heard if there was much if any 'pork' attached to this bill?
I also heard some highlights and I predict an uprising in the near future if it passes.
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http://www.legislature.mi.gov/docume...7-HNB-4323.htm
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