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Old May 18th, 2008, 08:08 AM   #201
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So how did it do without any sway bars? Good enough to leave it as is? And how did it feel with the extra weight down low from the 60? Probably didnt feel too different since the weight of the leafs are gone now. Looks great.
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Old May 18th, 2008, 08:31 AM   #202
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So how did it do without any sway bars? Good enough to leave it as is? And how did it feel with the extra weight down low from the 60? Probably didnt feel too different since the weight of the leafs are gone now. Looks great.
Actually felt quite stable. I don't yet have a real good feel for how far I can push it. We ran it down the road up to about 40 or so and it tracked nice. Wiggled the wheel a little & it felt loose but there were only 5 pounds in the tires so that would be expected.

I didn't notice any weight difference but I caught myself thinking the trans wasn't shifting when it actually was. It would be hard to think I would notice the gear ratio change (4.56 to 4.88) but that's all I could figure.
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Old May 18th, 2008, 08:33 AM   #203
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Also, I have had problems with np231's in the past and I have known that mine is on borrowed time. Well, it looks like I have a crack in it......... so it's time to order an Atlas.
I just so happen to know an Advance Adapter dealer, talk to you soon eh Jimmy!

And congratulations on a beautiful build, those Maozzloa's do good work!

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Old May 18th, 2008, 09:05 AM   #204
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I just so happen to know an Advance Adapter dealer, talk to you soon eh Jimmy!

And congratulations on a beautiful build, those Maozzloa's do good work!
Care to do an bulk order? I think Bryce is ready to order one too. I just have to confirm spline count and decide on ratios. Yes, we will probably be talking tomorrow.

And thanks on the build cudo's.
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Old May 18th, 2008, 09:21 AM   #205
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I love bulk orders my friend, talk to you manyanna, or however you spell tommorrow in spanish.
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Old May 18th, 2008, 09:56 AM   #206
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No stak? or you getting a 4sp atlas?
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Old May 18th, 2008, 11:11 AM   #207
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I don't know yet but the Atlas ratios seem to meet my needs better for running paddles at the dunes and bigger tires on the trails. But, I just discovered I don't need to rush into things. I pulled the t-case and there is no crack in the housing. The front output seal is trashed. I just can't figure out how I did it. I'm guessing that when I blew the front output last fall the metal part of the seal got bent & I didn't catch it. I didn't pull the entire case but rather just the back half while underneath it so visibility was limited.

So, a new seal tomorrow and I am back in business.

Pat, I am going to figure out what I want and we'll be talking. I know Bryce doesn't need his yet so with any luck, we can do something by end of summer.
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Old May 18th, 2008, 03:08 PM   #208
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.....Pat, I am going to figure out what I want and we'll be talking. I know Bryce doesn't need his yet so with any luck, we can do something by end of summer.
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Old May 24th, 2008, 07:46 AM   #209
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So here's why I need a new transfer case. The np231 just won't hold up to the abuse. The first problem I had was that I cracked the front case top to bottom right beside the front output. So, I welded it up thinking that it was a fluke.

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In the mean time I had replaced it with a different front case. On my next outing, I did it again to the new case......... no longer a fluke. So, before I installed the one I had previously welded, I added some aluminum gussetts. So far, it's held up.



But next, I broke the front output shaft.



Time for a new Atlas when the budget allows.
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Old May 24th, 2008, 10:02 AM   #210
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So all your failures have been on the front side of things? I'm a little worried about mine but I have a tera low kit that replaces the entire front half of the case with a stronger one so that should help. Plus I have nowhere near the power you have (yet ) so I hope the outputs can hold up to the weight of the one tons and 40's. At least for awhile. Are you thinking 3 speed still or just a happy medium 2 speed?
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Old May 24th, 2008, 12:43 PM   #211
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The only problems on the t-case have been all on the front. I figure it's from the moment arm of the offset output. The rear doesn't have that since it is a direct in line output. If the tera low kit uses a different front case you may not have the cracking problem but unless it upgrades the size of the output shaft, that is still at risk. Mine broke on a steep hill climb where I got the front tires in the air & didn't get off the throttle quick enough.

I think the ratios of the Atlas appeal to me more for dune running. I changed gears from 4.56 to 4.88, so I really want to do a run at the dunes with the paddles & compare the current np231 ratios to see which way I should go. The other consideration is the interchangeability. I have heard rumors that when changing to a 2 speed Atlas or Stak the driveshafts have to be changed. If you do the 3 or 4 speed, they don't. That alone almost offsets the price of the multi speed box. But, that may not even be true.

At this point, I want to do a little more research. Dunes here we come!
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Old May 24th, 2008, 07:44 PM   #212
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..........Time for a new Atlas when the budget allows.
After looking at Atlas & Stak, I'm going Atlas.

If your talking late summer or fall, lemme know and we can see if Pat can get a better deal ordering three of them. I just spent about $1k less than I thought I would on a NV4500 Atlas money.
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Old May 26th, 2008, 03:55 PM   #213
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The big question ... Is this going to be ready for the tough shakesown run? The Parade.

In years past there's been known to be breakdowns and carnage. :tonka:

found .... this is where I jinxed myself.
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Old May 26th, 2008, 03:59 PM   #214
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I heard jim bent an UPPER link (.120 wall 1.75) at OSTC, how much is it bent?
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Old June 5th, 2008, 04:45 PM   #217
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WhiteRhino, you still bummed that you bowed out of our KY trip?:tonka:

Sounds like that would have been a bit much of a shake down run, maybe good you didnt make it.
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Old June 5th, 2008, 04:53 PM   #218
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I heard jim bent an UPPER link (.120 wall 1.75) at OSTC, how much is it bent?
in half, sideways, plus twisted

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Old June 5th, 2008, 05:35 PM   #219
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I heard jim bent an UPPER link (.120 wall 1.75) at OSTC, how much is it bent?
Noticeable but could probably run it forever & not have a problem. Maybe 1/8 -1/4 bow in it.

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WhiteRhino, you still bummed that you bowed out of our KY trip?:tonka:

Sounds like that would have been a bit much of a shake down run, maybe good you didnt make it.
Randy I'm bummed because I wasn't ready but quite frankly, I had zero problems with it the entire weekend. It would have kept up with you guys just fine. In fact, there was a place at OSTC where silverxj couldn't keep up with me.:tonka:
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Old June 5th, 2008, 06:23 PM   #220
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I'll bite.

How in the hell do you bend an Upper link? A pointy rock? Stump?
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