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Old May 15th, 2008, 02:43 PM   #181
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I have a 46 cj2a in need of suspension. would a 2'' spring lift force me to make any other changes from stock, longer drive shaft for example?
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Old May 15th, 2008, 02:59 PM   #182
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I have a 46 cj2a in need of suspension. would a 2'' spring lift force me to make any other changes from stock, longer drive shaft for example?
My rear shaft is stock, I am pretty sure my front shaft would fit stock (some hack lengthened it, but I haven't changed it)

The only thing it may force you do do is lose the Ross steering for a Saginaw setup.

I have my old stock springs if you wanted to go that route.
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Old May 15th, 2008, 05:58 PM   #183
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Hmm now you have me thinking cuz I want to stay near stock (maybe lil taller tires thats it). Are your old springs in good shape? I probably need to replace mine along with the spring hangers. Thanks for the inspiration. Makes me want to get going on mine. yours looks great! Let me know on the springs and hangers.

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Old May 15th, 2008, 08:24 PM   #184
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I have read people using the 2" lift and retaining the ross setup. if remaining with the ross you'll have to adjust your toe in as the lift will toe the tires in more. saginaw swap is ideally the best way to go but if you rebuild the ross and the drag link I doubt it would be much issue unless you were running a wide tire. also it is advised that you swap to a later and longer H stlye shackle. for cheap insurance I would do the button head screw mod to the spindles to get rid of the weak thread into the knuckle stock setup. I want to run a 31x9.50 on mine so plan to go with the 1" with a .5 shackle.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 10:32 AM   #185
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I have read people using the 2" lift and retaining the ross setup. if remaining with the ross you'll have to adjust your toe in as the lift will toe the tires in more. saginaw swap is ideally the best way to go but if you rebuild the ross and the drag link I doubt it would be much issue unless you were running a wide tire. also it is advised that you swap to a later and longer H stlye shackle. for cheap insurance I would do the button head screw mod to the spindles to get rid of the weak thread into the knuckle stock setup. I want to run a 31x9.50 on mine so plan to go with the 1" with a .5 shackle.
Thanks for the advice Ill keep that in mind. I have the "rare" column shift on this cj serial number 36????. My intention is to keep it near stock as possible except for the 31"s I put on it. They seem to clear fine but my springs are bent and sagging some. I considered 2" lift to get more clearance but I think some good new or used stock ones will work fine. I plan to use it for show and shines and LIGHT trail use around Cadilac, Lake city area.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 12:26 PM   #186
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Thanks for the advice Ill keep that in mind. I have the "rare" column shift on this cj serial number 36????. My intention is to keep it near stock as possible except for the 31"s I put on it. They seem to clear fine but my springs are bent and sagging some. I considered 2" lift to get more clearance but I think some good new or used stock ones will work fine. I plan to use it for show and shines and LIGHT trail use around Cadilac, Lake city area.
If it's an original column shift you should also have tool indents, FWIW.

My stockers seemed ok when I pulled them off. They are there if you want them, they need new bushings though.

I was just reading on early 5 about 2" with Ross, it seems most people swap for the convenience of the saggy. Less to get in the way, wear out and deal with after the lift (tilt column = more belly room ). Worth a shot
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If it's an original column shift you should also have tool indents, FWIW.

My stockers seemed ok when I pulled them off. They are there if you want them, they need new bushings though.

I was just reading on early 5 about 2" with Ross, it seems most people swap for the convenience of the saggy. Less to get in the way, wear out and deal with after the lift (tilt column = more belly room ). Worth a shot
very true. exact reason I picked up the nt 30 from pavement pounder. the one thing I was not sure about is to swap the column for something like a tilt flaming river. I have a really good buddy who sells for flaming river and could get a good deal. is there a way to retain the stock column and joint it to a saginaw? without the worm held in the ross box how is the inner shaft held in place?
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very true. exact reason I picked up the nt 30 from pavement pounder. the one thing I was not sure about is to swap the column for something like a tilt flaming river. I have a really good buddy who sells for flaming river and could get a good deal. is there a way to retain the stock column and joint it to a saginaw? without the worm held in the ross box how is the inner shaft held in place?
Mine is kind of hacked together right now with spare parts, but if you go back in this thread you can see where we made my stock column into a saggy style column. Works VERY well other then the joint we used from the steering shaft I had laying around is a little too big and 'barely' rubs the brake pedal when braking and going around a corner. I am skinny enough I don't need a tilt column though. If I could find a stock looking wheel to put on a tilt column I would probably go that route though as my goal is to have it look somewhat stockish because I want the Navy Markings on it. I have been trying to do only pre-70's type mods. Stuff you would see on a jeep that has been used all it's life.

I want to get a second 2A/3A/3B to keep stock aside from a megasquirt or something, OD and street friendly axle gearing. Though a 4.3L one would be desireable to me as well. I hate newer vehicles, no character, and too much crap that isn't needed. Too much safety BS on them. I enjoy driving both my jeeps, The newer cars I drive, none 'do it' for me.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 04:36 PM   #189
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If it's an original column shift you should also have tool indents, FWIW.

My stockers seemed ok when I pulled them off. They are there if you want them, they need new bushings though.

I was just reading on early 5 about 2" with Ross, it seems most people swap for the convenience of the saggy. Less to get in the way, wear out and deal with after the lift (tilt column = more belly room ). Worth a shot
Yes I do have the tool brackets and pto. Willys Overland here in Toledo told me they used parts i.e. tool brackets left over from the war on the 46 cj2a
and called them "The Pioneer" addition. From what I understand they stopped using the collum shifter mid 1946 at serial number 38XXXX mine is 36XXXX.
Any way rarity is not as important to me as I just think its a cool set up though not always convienient.
I wouldnt mind having an extra cj2 or 3 to do just what you did. I think I need more money for that kind of project.

Yeah Im very interested in getting those springs out of your way. How might I go about aquiering them from you?

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Old May 19th, 2008, 05:22 PM   #190
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Old May 21st, 2008, 10:51 PM   #191
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One of the local clubs was having a trail maintenance (SoFO) so I asked Adam if he wanted to go with me, we could try the flatty out towing the M416 on the trails.

Overall the trails didn't need too much, and we hauled out 2 trucks full of mattress springs, and some tires and about a half trailer of mixed bullcrap.

Great time, met a lot of good guys I hadn't met before and thoroughly enjoyed ourselves. Flatty did AWESOME. Way better then I expected in all the sand pulling a trailer. I often just had it in 3rd, 4-low and let it Idle and lug down the trail as in the beginning it was slow going. I'll be darn if it wouldn't keep chugging down to 3-400 RPM. You could hear each cylinder firing.... R)

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Old May 21st, 2008, 10:55 PM   #192
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Those tires look right at home on there more than they did on an s10 !
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 02:50 PM   #193
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Hey great little trailer ! neat set up.
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Old May 25th, 2008, 11:12 PM   #194
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Well Today I replaced the front spring bushings, and because the new exhaust was so quiet I built myself a radio...





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Old May 26th, 2008, 01:04 AM   #195
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wow what a cool radio idea!

sweet looking jeep and trailer
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Great Idea I think ill do one. So, How do you power that? Cigarette lighter?
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Great Idea I think ill do one. So, How do you power that? Cigarette lighter?
Actually it is wired to the fuse box, but it has a quick disconnect where you could switch it to a cig lighter plug to put it in another vehicle. I have not wired up my cig lighter plug yet, but when I do my handheld CB will be plugged into it most of the time.

I tried it out tonight, and other then the speaker being old and crusty it worked well. I am going to replace the speaker and see how well it works then. This one distorts if you turn it up to hear it when going over 45.

I am trying to decide if I want the cig plug in the side of the ammo box. It probably will go in the dash though since the hole is already there for it.

I also need to figure out how to mount it so it is removable.

I used my CD player to test the tapedeck, but even with 40 sec skip protection I couldn't use it going down the road unless I set it in my lap :tonka:











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just pick up a cheap mp3 player. Goto best buy and buy a house brand insignia 1GB. I think its less than $40? Wont have the problem with skipping and its a tad bigger than a thumb drive.
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just pick up a cheap mp3 player. Goto best buy and buy a house brand insignia 1GB. I think its less than $40? Wont have the problem with skipping and its a tad bigger than a thumb drive.
I already have a Samsung mp3 & XM portable recorder as well as an Insignia Pilot, they were just both dead because I forgot to charge them :tonka:
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Went out tonight to put a new speaker on and ended up doing a lot more... I decided I wanted a riser, still not sure how I want to mount the box, but I wanted a riser.

I suggested to Adam maybe we could use my old YJ spare tire carrier that was going to scrap, he worked his magic and it actually is turning out great! Just need o figure out how I want to mount the box so it is removable...







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