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Old May 9th, 2008, 06:52 PM   #1
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Why are pagan religions not more common today? I mean, they are the oldest form of religion which logically makes them more credible. Their claims are no more impossible than those of Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Judaism, etc...

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Define "Pagan Religion".
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I suspect it is because of the negative light that has been brought on it in the past. Wicca being refered to as witchery and associated with witchcraft. People have been taught that Wiccans are satanic and anti-christian as opposed of being taught that the religion is pre-christian and christianity has drawn many beliefs from pagans.
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I suspect it is because of the negative light that has been brought on it in the past. Wicca being refered to as witchery and associated with witchcraft. People have been taught that Wiccans are satanic and anti-christian as opposed of being taught that the religion is pre-christian and christianity has drawn many beliefs from pagans.
x2.

It is the same thing with atheism. People call atheists "devil worshippers", when how can you worship the devil if you don't beleive in him? People forget that the devil only exists where god does.
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It is the same thing with atheism. People call atheists "devil worshippers", when how can you worship the devil if you don't beleive in him? People forget that the devil only exists where god does.
Funny you mention that.

I was working with my uncle doing an insulation job once and he started preaching to me as he normally did. This is a guy that has openly cheated on his wife his entire life. He was a drunk and most interesting he was very decietful, often times moving into an apartment and paying the securities and never paying another cent until he was evicted.

Anyhow, my uncle told me I would burn in hell with the devil for not being a believer. He turned white as a ghost when I pointed that out to him.
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Their Fake.
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Their Fake.
interesting and vague.

Want to explain?
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interesting and vague.

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This whole thread is interesting and vague without a definition of "pagan religion". That term could apply to many, but in it's typical usage seems to mean "not Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Judaism, etc..."
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Define "Pagan Religion".
by pagan I mean any of the polytheistic beliefs including the greek, egyptian, roman, norse, celtic, etc... religions.
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They're Fake.
what are you basing this on? There is as much or more evidence supporting many of these faiths as Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and other mainstream religions.

btw the bible is not usable evidence against these faiths as most of them have just as many written accounts supporting their existence.
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Why are pagan religions not more common today? I mean, they are the oldest form of religion which logically makes them more credible. Their claims are no more impossible than those of Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Judaism, etc...

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ok, I will.

What specifically makes the claims of pagan religions equally credible to to story of Christ? What specifically would make them more of a logical belief?
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They are all equally fairy tales.
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They are all equally fairy tales.
so there is NO difference, one to the other? perhaps you missed where I asked for specifics.
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Fairy tales LOL

There is no credible evidence for any religion, other than we are related to pond scum and thats not a religion its fact.
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pa·gan Audio Help /ˈpeɪgən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[pey-guhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. one of a people or community observing a polytheistic religion, as the ancient Romans and Greeks.
2. a person who is not a Christian, Jew, or Muslim.
3. an irreligious or hedonistic person.
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4. pertaining to the worship or worshipers of any religion that is neither Christian, Jewish, nor Muslim.
5. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of pagans.
6. irreligious or hedonistic.
[Origin: 1325–75; ME < ML, LL pāgānus worshiper of false gods, orig. civilian (i.e., not a soldier of Christ), L: peasant, n. use of pāgānus rural, civilian, deriv. of pāgus village, rural district (akin to pangere to fix, make fast); see -an1]

—Related forms
pa·gan·ish, adjective
pa·gan·ish·ly, adverb

—Synonyms 2. heathen, gentile. 5. See heathen.
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Just to add more fuel to everyones fire...

So pagan is used more like a generic term for poly religions.

But they are everywhere. But like an earlier post said, they have been oppressed so they keep only to them selves and do not openly practice.

it is even still oppressed today. I know that the Detroit Schools were sued over allowing one openly Wiccan girl to be persecuted on school grounds to the point where she committed suicide.

Oh, FYI, My mom has a doctorate in Comparative Religion
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i am a big fan of the pagan religions. norse gods and greek/roman gods were a bunch of sons a bitches, but if you read the old testament they were a bunch of bastards also. jesus, was supposedly the son of god, Hercules was also the son of a god. they both did often courageous acts to help people.
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Oh, FYI, My mom has a doctorate in Comparative Religion
so your mom is a nut that compaires nuts cases?

the praticing wicans I know are not really that knowledgable, witch might be another reason that they don't preach, and anyone that is knowledgable probably spends too much timee answering everyone eles questions.

that or they jut don't want to be associated with christianity by preaching...

the difference in religon? not really any, they still waste their time making up storys and worshiping unanswering gods.
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the difference in religon? not really any, they still waste their time making up storys and worshiping unanswering gods.
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ok, I will.

What specifically makes the claims of pagan religions equally credible to to story of Christ? What specifically would make them more of a logical belief?
well seeing as there is absolutely NO CREDIBLE EVIDENCE for any religion including christianity, they are all on the same level. The fact that they started first makes them the more logical choice for a religion as the people would have a better record (oral traditions) of "creation"

basically it is like that silly phone game kids play. The farther from the source of the message the more distorted it becomes.
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I think the simple answer is that we don't follow pagan religions because our parents didn't. Most religious people prescribe to the religion of their ancestors. Some will claim to have studied many religions and picked one, but I think even most of them end up choosing the religion they learned of as a child.

As to why our ancestors chose to follow the more "modern" monotheistic religions rather then the "ancient" polytheistic religions we could probably debate that until the end of time.

Dave Kerwin and friends will say that it's because the fact that their beliefs are based on writings of people that claim to have been eyewitnesses to the events on which the beliefs are based, whereas the ancient religions are based on legends of things that happened before the age of recorded history, or that happened in some "mythical" place beyond the view of humans . To them that makes their beliefs more credible and believable.

84Scrambler and friends will say/said that all religions are mythical legends, and that the only reason "modern" religions are more popular than ancient religions is that the religions that wrote nifty books, and marketed themselves better, sometimes with the point of a sword or gun barrel, became the dominate religion and the other simply died out as a result.

Me, being the extreme moderate I am, believe the truth is somewhere in between.
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