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Old April 24th, 2008, 06:05 PM   #1
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I have an older station wagon that doesn't have the LATCH system in it. I need to find an aftermarket latch for the top tether or if someone can make one for me out of 1/4" stock I would appreciate it and gladly pay for it plus shipping. If you are unfamiliar with them I am basically looking for a bent C with flattened and drilled ends to screw into the back of the seat. My wagons seats are so soft that the kids seat leans in the corners and I don't feel its too safe.
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IIRC the dealership will put parts in it for free. Might want to check. When I had my old chevy truck, they put the tether hook in under a "recall".
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IIRC the dealership will put parts in it for free. Might want to check. When I had my old chevy truck, they put the tether hook in under a "recall".
They never got back to me so I assumed it wasn't available.
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First... how big is your child? If they are in a stage 3 car seat, they likely will need the seat belt to properly restrain them in the vehicle in the event of a collision.... Really, the best way to ensure your child is properly secured, is using the straps that come with the childs seat (provided they are tight not loose) and using the factory seat belt.... sorry.... I have seen WAY to many parents improperly install their children in car seats....
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First... how big is your child? If they are in a stage 3 car seat, they likely will need the seat belt to properly restrain them in the vehicle in the event of a collision.... Really, the best way to ensure your child is properly secured, is using the straps that come with the childs seat (provided they are tight not loose) and using the factory seat belt.... sorry.... I have seen WAY to many parents improperly install their children in car seats....
What?

Seriously.

His seat is secured as recommended for cars without the latch system via the seat belt thru the back. I am not looking to unhook the seat belt but install a top tether for his car seat to keep it more secure and keep it from leaning. His seat is a toddler seat.

All I am looking for is a source of the tether or if someone has some scrap and wants to make one.

Thanks for your input.
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I appologize as I wasn't trying to imply that you were doing anything wrong, just that I have seen way to many parents who don't know how to strap their kids in.... and when ever you bring it up, you are always the bad guy regardless.....

You will likely have to call the manufacture if you want the teather... I have looked on a few sites and it appears they sell all but the teather.

My daughter is in a stage 3 car seat as well and when I sinch that thing down she can't tilt it side to side. When I strap her down I try to move the seat and its always very snug, perhaps your belt is loosening after you install it?
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No, the seats in the older cars are alot less firm. Also the single belt holding in place as opposed to the tethers surely has something to do with it.
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No, the seats in the older cars are alot less firm. Also the single belt holding in place as opposed to the tethers surely has something to do with it.
When I just had one kid I use to use both drivers side and passenger side seatbelts in my xj to strap the car seat in the back. Stayed pretty firm in location.
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Are you tlking about the strap that keeps the seat from flipping forward if you are rear ended or rear end someone?
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I am looking for an anchor for the top tether as seen in the picture. Tho I want to fasten the anchor to the back of the seat not the floor of the cargo area.

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Also, It appears that a bent plate with two holes would work. One hole to secure to the seat and the other to secure the LATCH hook.
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The latch system is a 3 point system though designed to anchor the seat to the car and then free the seat belt up to use as a restraint for the child. The reason the seat is shifting into the corners is the seatbelt has been proven ineffective as a seat restraining device. They were never designed to restrain something stiffly so close to the seat. I would use a ratchet strap to secure the bottom if you can't get parts to do that job and work on a top tether.
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I am aware of the functions of the latch system. However, you are incorrect that seatbelts are 'ineffective' rather the latch system is a safter more secure way to fasten a car seat.

If you want I can post several links of reading material in my searches. I was just looking for someone that might have a source for the aftermarket anchors or someone that would make the top tether for me. The seat does not slide nor fold forward but I want to add an anchor for the top tether for added security. We really don't need to beat a dead horse on the functions of them.

I will let the thread die and just go to a local shop and see if someone can make one out of some plate.
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Regardless of whether you use the top portion of the latch system or not you need to push the seat down and back to compress the cushion of the vehicle seat. If the "kids seat leans in the corners" you are correct it is not safe and needs to be tightened. Sort of like a pre-compression. If you were to get in an accident it would compress the seat and then the straps would be too loose.

I applaud you for going the extra step to make your child safe.

I think the health department in every county has a person that is trained on the use and installation of car seats. My aunt held that position in Sanilac county. We also went to a free class at our local health department.

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I appreciate everyones feedback.

I get the feeling that you are of the opinion that the seat is loose and flopping around. By lean i mean that it moves in the slightest bit. It takes a great bit of force to move it, I was just looking for the added bit to make sure there were no issues. I am used to a vehicle with the anchors and when tight the seat doesn't move at all.

Again the thread can die, I will just find a local source.
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Interesting how things have changed over time.

in the 70's when i was a little guy, your parents threw you in the back seat, sometimes I'd ride on mom or dads lap and they'd let me hold the wheel. nobody wore a seat belt.

you could also sit in the car while your folks went into the store and it was cool.

the only kids that wore helmets were the ones on the short bus.

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Ever ride on the armrest of a car because you were too short to see over the dash?
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First... how big is your child? If they are in a stage 3 car seat, they likely will need the seat belt to properly restrain them in the vehicle in the event of a collision.... Really, the best way to ensure your child is properly secured, is using the straps that come with the childs seat (provided they are tight not loose) and using the factory seat belt.... sorry.... I have seen WAY to many parents improperly install their children in car seats....
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Q: Should I use seat belts along with LATCH?
A: No, the LATCH anchors and attachments take the place of seat belts. It's a good idea to tuck the seat belts out of the way as long as you do it so it doesn't interfere with the lower anchoring system.
This was found with a quick search to confirm my suspiscions before I said anything. But everything I have read says not to do what you have said to do.

Why? I don't know, seems to me more is better, but its recommended not to do that.
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