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Old April 13th, 2008, 07:44 PM   #1
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Default Recentering H1 wheels - pics

I posted this in the how-to section too but not sure how many actually go there and this is fabrication so whatever. I just recentered my Hummer wheels with 3/8 centers. I cut my own centers and re-enforcement outer rings but there are several other to choose from. I am going to just post the sequence of pics but if there are any questions feel free to ask. I posted this in the how-to section too but not sure how many actually go there.

1. Cut out factory center. I used the outer ring edge as a guide and cut it with a plasma cutter. I suppose a torch could be used too but I would think a cut off wheel would bring the suck. They are already sandblasted.


I then designed and cut out my outer re-enforcement rings out of 1/4 and the centers out of 3/8.


I then welded the outer rings on the outer portion of the wheel. Only one wheel was out of whack but not too bad.

Gratuitous close up.

Then I made up a "jig" of sorts by using my factory hub with disc and a spare 3/8 center as a spacer. I placed this jig on a piece of 3/8 plate for as flat a surface as possible. I checked each one and all were very, very close in trueness. This setup gave me a 4.25 backspacing. Which is about as much as possible and still be able to weld the outer side of the center easily.

After tacking them in 10 spots (both ends of the spokes) I removed them from the jig and welded the backsides of the centers being mindfull of the heat and welding every other spoke till done.

Another close up of these welds.

Then after a long cooling period I welded the outer side of the center the same way. It is quite tight in there but not too bad.

Here they are together.

And here is one of the outers sitting in a tire.

I need to cut down my runflats yet but will get those done soon. I also bought new o-rings from Graingers and will paint them after it warms up a bit more. Hope this helps someone who is thinking of doing a set. Its pretty easy to do it just takes a lot of welding. Tab
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Old April 13th, 2008, 08:22 PM   #2
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looks good

how are you cutting down the runflats? Can you run a video camera while you do it incase you start a firework show? hehe
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Old April 13th, 2008, 08:34 PM   #3
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Not sure yet, Jason (camaro13z28) says to use a air hammer with a sheetmetal cutter on it to knock out the ribs. Then use a sawsall to cut down the main section. Then clean up with a flap wheel. I will try his method first. I thought of just buying some pvc ones to avoid this part but I guess I'll give it a try. I'll keep you updated on the fireworks. Oh and I'll be saving a few pieces to toss in the bonfire.

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Not sure yet, ......... I will try his method first. I thought of just buying some pvc ones to avoid this part but I guess I'll give it a try. I'll keep you updated on the fireworks. Oh and I'll be saving a few pieces to toss in the bonfire.
x2, another method I seen was to use a hole saw on the flats then cut the ribs out with a long blade on the sawsall.
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Wow Tab those welds look great. I think tthat you should open up a welding school. Tab is a great guy he does a lot of work for our shop and if you ever need any plasma cutting done i recommend him to all.
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I thought your screen name was jpfabrication .... I was thinking, "Dear God, I hope you don't plan on making wheels."
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I thought your screen name was jpfabrication .... I was thinking, "Dear God, I hope you don't plan on making wheels."
Thats what I thought too at first
I'm guessing its Justin from Nates4x4.com not jpfab. Oh and for $500 I'll teach you to weld......all I'll say is to keep practicing though, easy money right there. The more you burn the more you learn, although yours dont look too shaby either
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my welds are horrendous (sp)

and yes i know downhill welds are not structural, i think there is enough welds on the rest not to worry about that one, more just for cosmetics than anything
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Thanks! I had a tough time with welding the front side of mine. Everything was clean, surface was not contaminated with anything, I just couldn't get a good bead on it. I was using a Miller 220v, I adjusted the setting, gas, the way I had the tip pointed, ground, but it kept "popping."

I went the centers from Shawn @ Greatlakeoffroad, which have the holes off the edge, so I was able to fully weld them all the way around the center. Which is what Shawn suggested. The inside welds turned out good, but I ended up going back over the outside welds with my 140 to "clean" them up a bit. In short, I doubt these are going anywhere.

$500 to teach me to weld? Will you start referring business my way too?
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my welds are horrendous (sp)

and yes i know downhill welds are not structural, i think there is enough welds on the rest not to worry about that one, more just for cosmetics than anything
what thickness and grade is that?
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tube is 4x4x1/4 a500 and the plate is 3/16 a36
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and as far as the grade of the frame its whatever a 77 jeep would be that spent most of its life on the pacific coast
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and the plate is also going AROUND the tube, the tube is fully welded to the frame itself as i cut 8 inches off the stock frame so this is the new crossmember, boxed the frame since im gonna be hanging some heavy bumpers off it, bout 200lbs also moving the rear sprins inline with the frame
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wow, wish someone around here could do that nice of work, but I guess ill have to travel further than flint to get any of that huh
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Thanks, (I'm assuming your talking to me and not the highjacker) Remenber that if you need something I travel all over the state so if I can fit it in my car I can deliver. Actually I was in Pontiac and Waterford today.
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I can deliver from Tab to Detroit area atleast once a month, sometimes more...
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My welds just are not as pretty, but they are functional.

(Picture quality is worst than the welds.)


The can said gray ... I got chrome.



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Thanks tab Let me see what i can do about comming up with that money so i can learn. Oh wait welding is what i do all day every day. If you want to see what my weld will hold up too i can put a pic on this thread. Try later. If you want good quality work i would recommend tab he is very knowledgable dude and does not do stuff half assed. NO I AM NO AFFILIATE WITH JP FABRICATION. I WILL LET THAT ONE SLIDE.
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