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Old March 29th, 2008, 12:41 PM   #1
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Just curious how many of you think global warming is bullshit? I am so sick of all this "green" shit.
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Huge difference between global warming (aka bullshit) and being green (conserving energy).
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Old March 29th, 2008, 01:01 PM   #3
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Not sure about being "green", but I sure like to save my hard earned green!
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Old March 29th, 2008, 02:07 PM   #4
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we actually could desperately use some global warming. But, we do not have it. Hence our lack of precipitation.
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Global warming, yes. But are we causing it, and can we do anything to change it, NO.

It is just part of a natural cycle.

I don't mind trying to be green, but lets do it for the right reasons, not some made up political agenda.
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Global warming is bullshit (there are obviously going to be cyclical warm and cooler periods), but there's nothing wrong with trying to conserve some energy, as long as the cost isn't prohibitive. I'm not an environmentalist, but a blatant disregard for the environment and natural resources is pretty silly.
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There are so many types of "green" that seem to be out there. The one that starting to piss me off is stupid little hybrids that keep giving me dirty looks
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Old March 29th, 2008, 04:22 PM   #8
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it's a scam. They are finding mine shafts, houses and artifacts in the ice. hmmmm i wonder how those got there...? obviously the ice wasn't there within the last couple thousand years and i don't think they were driving hummer h2's around back then. Sounds like a cycle to me.
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Im turning all my lights off at 8 tonight to raise awareness for global warming.
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have fun. You'll be in the dark.
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well i ot all my lights on and t.v. that im not watchin ... is today supposed to be a green day?
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Green is something that is very needed. Reclaiming items in houses instead of replacing them. Using glass water bottles instead of the plastic ones. Recycling. Lots of need for green.

Global warming is a cycle. The world is repeating itself.
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When I eat Captian Crunch w/crunch berries my poop is green.
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When I eat Captian Crunch w/crunch berries my poop is green.
Purple drank makes my poop green. Or lots of garlic.
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and the all crunch berries stuff is crazy.
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Im turning all my lights off at 8 tonight to raise awareness for global warming.
While this whole turn your lights off at 8pm thing sounds like a great idea, I hope you realize the problems that would happen if everyone does this. Your lights won't just be out for an hour. For the people that don't understand how utilities work, you have to match your supply to your demand. A great deal of time and effort goes in to forecasting load demands for each hour of the day. This is done to insure that there are enough units on-line to cover the load increase, decreases, minimum load of the day, and the maximum load of the day. If everyone shuts off their lights at 8pm, the system voltage will spike due to a sudden increase in supply. Power systems are programmed to react to this by shutting down units on an emergency basis, much like occured during the blackout. When this happens, you have units running at or near their full load and at full pressure, then they suddenly shut off. Safety valves pop, releasing pressure from the system to prevent catastrophic damage to the plants and the turbine. Just like they did during the blackout. If you are lucky, no damage will be done and they can shut the safety valves and restart the plant within 8-12 hours. But, that rarely happens. Something usually breaks which means 24-72 hours of repair time. If the valves don't work right and the turbine overspeeds (it turns at 3600 rpm normally) and the turbine is ruined, it would be at least 2-3 YEARS to get a replacement engineered, built, and shipped from France or China. The worst part would be the blades that can break loose from the turbine and exit the building. Turbine blades have been found over a mile away from a turbine that explodes. Is any of this likely? Probably not, but these are just some of the issues that utilities deal with on a daily basis and work to prevent. So, while these feel good ideas sound great, just stop to thing about the potential impact first... The power grid is fragile enough every day without people intentionally screwing with it.
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Green is something that is very needed. Reclaiming items in houses instead of replacing them. Using glass water bottles instead of the plastic ones. Recycling. Lots of need for green.

Global warming is a cycle. The world is repeating itself.
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While this whole turn your lights off at 8pm thing sounds like a great idea, I hope you realize the problems that would happen if everyone does this. Your lights won't just be out for an hour. For the people that don't understand how utilities work, you have to match your supply to your demand. A great deal of time and effort goes in to forecasting load demands for each hour of the day. This is done to insure that there are enough units on-line to cover the load increase, decreases, minimum load of the day, and the maximum load of the day. If everyone shuts off their lights at 8pm, the system voltage will spike due to a sudden increase in supply. Power systems are programmed to react to this by shutting down units on an emergency basis, much like occured during the blackout. When this happens, you have units running at or near their full load and at full pressure, then they suddenly shut off. Safety valves pop, releasing pressure from the system to prevent catastrophic damage to the plants and the turbine. Just like they did during the blackout. If you are lucky, no damage will be done and they can shut the safety valves and restart the plant within 8-12 hours. But, that rarely happens. Something usually breaks which means 24-72 hours of repair time. If the valves don't work right and the turbine overspeeds (it turns at 3600 rpm normally) and the turbine is ruined, it would be at least 2-3 YEARS to get a replacement engineered, built, and shipped from France or China. The worst part would be the blades that can break loose from the turbine and exit the building. Turbine blades have been found over a mile away from a turbine that explodes. Is any of this likely? Probably not, but these are just some of the issues that utilities deal with on a daily basis and work to prevent. So, while these feel good ideas sound great, just stop to thing about the potential impact first... The power grid is fragile enough every day without people intentionally screwing with it.
How the heck did you say all that without calling somebody a name?

Insightful, a little opinionated, informative, enough spelling errors to let us know it wasn't copied, and still some room for someone to respond, I like that.
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What is opinionated? I'm just stating the reality of what can happen if all of a sudden there is a huge decrease in load on the system. That is what caused the blackout.
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The power grid is fragile enough every day without people intentionally screwing with it.
I'm interested to see what will happen if plug-in hybryds go large scale.
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