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Old March 25th, 2008, 09:48 PM   #1
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i want to upgrade my tierods but dont wanna spend a bunch to do so so my question is how

this is in a yj and tie rods go from spindle to spindle then from tie rod to pitman arm now what other tierods would fit maybe bronko or older chevy or something i just need a tierod that ties the spindles and the drag link attaches to it

i am not opposed to cutting them down and welding in a bung for the rod ends but what rod ends have the same taper ..im thinking maybe chevy as i like chevy parts

i know that someone else has done this or knows how
i know im being cheep but i have limited money..
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http://www.jeeperz-creeperz.com/drag...26ac972bcaa9dc

not a bad price for a bolt in kit.
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Old March 26th, 2008, 01:15 AM   #3
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tie rods go from spindle to spindle
Its one tie-rod and it goes from knuckle to knuckle.

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then from tie rod to pitman arm
That's called "inverted-T".

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now what other tierods would fit maybe bronko or older chevy..............i know im being cheep but i have limited money..

Then your solution might be ZJ parts. Google.
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Old March 26th, 2008, 02:23 AM   #4
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i like the ruged ridge parts from jeepers creapers but its out of stock till like the 21st anyone know of someone who sells for the same price i have searched and cant find anything for under 200 dollars and i wont pay that much if i can get it cheeper somewhere else but just dont wanna wait till then
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Old March 26th, 2008, 06:43 AM   #5
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Why don't you just price out the TRE's and have JC cut the rods for you?
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Old March 26th, 2008, 12:45 PM   #6
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tre's where do i find them seams that i just aint searching for the rite things
i know its sad that i dont know these things but noone around here knows anything about jeeps thats why i ask on here(all the places i been lately want to sell oem and say thats all that will work)
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Tie-rod ends are those things at the ends of the tie-rod and drag link that thread into the rod. You buy them at the parts store. Call whatever shop is closest to you. You can probably have a list of part numbers to buy and a total for the rod work in a 5-minute phone call.
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Old March 26th, 2008, 12:55 PM   #8
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i would def. recomend having some DOM cut with welded insterts to accept the tie-rod thread. A left hand and right hand thread.

The thing i always hated when i had my old steering setup on the stock axles was you couldn't replace the one joint at the end of the drag link. It was casted as part of it. This bar costs around 100 if i remember??
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lol they dont seam to be able to find a tre that had the hole in it for the drag link they say that they can only search by vehicle ...and look at me like i am talking greek when i tell them what i want to do.... you know what part numbers i need to ask for or what vehicle so i can make a tie rod that has replacxeable ends insted of haveing to replace the whole rod like on my jeep now

i want larger ones like the ones from J C
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yea thats what i am trying to elemanate i need to replace the rod ends and i am not gonna replace it with the stock ones i want to upgrade to larger ones like the rugged ridge ones and jc has them for 167 but out of stock till end of the month and i wanna do it now so i am trying to find the rod ends that they use so i can upgrade it now if i can get the ends i can get the dom and weld it up

i dunno maybe ill wait till they get them in but i wanna get it done for the blessing may 3
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when u upgrade to the larger style you will have to have your holes re- tapperd. You cannot just drill a bigger hole as they are a tapper. You can just take the knucles off and take it to JCR
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well i was under the impression that you didnt have to re drill for the ones from jeepers creapers or at least thats what rugged ridge says on their site
from what i been reading anyways it says the strength of one ton steering without redrilling your knuckles and thatas what i am trying to do is not have to redrill but to make it stronger
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HD Tie Rod/ Drag Link Kit, YJ
Part Number: 18050.83 $167.95



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Manufacturer: Rugged Ridge
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1987-1995 Jeep YJ Wrangler

Beef up your ride with Rugged Ridge steering components. This is a bolt-on solution for preventing bent tie rods from wheeling with larger tires. The tubes are 1-¼” ID SAE 1018 steel that is cold rolled, pierced, and drawn through dies to produce a wall thickness of ¼”. This is true DOM tubing with NO seams OR welds to fail. Heavy duty 7/8” rod ends feature standard tapered ends to fit stock knuckle applications. You get one ton strength without any modifications to your steering knuckles. Includes drag link tube, tie rod rube, 4 tie rod ends, and steering stabilizer mount..

this is what i want but they are out of stock and i need to do it now as mine are shot
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Yeah, we get it. How many times are you going to repeat yourself? I think the link in the second post was pretty clear.

You don't have to drill out anything for the Rugged Ridge because the taper of the TRE is the same size as stock. That doesn't mean it isn't any stronger. Its probably a higher quality TRE and the tube is obviously stronger than the factory parts.

What I don't understand here is why you keep posting about what you want and not calling around to get it. Call a shop and find out if they stock TRE's in your size. If they do, buy them and get the DOM to make the rods yourself like you said. If you weld the TRE's to the DOM, you won't be able to do any alignments.
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If it was me I would just spend the extra cash for one ton steering. How much of PITA is it going to be to find a replacement for the RR set up? Most parts stores stock the chevy/dodge ends.

One ton on top and stocker on bottom.
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what i am looking for is a part number or something because the parts stoors have no idea what i am doing ..i keep repeating myselfe because people keep telling me to just ream them out and i just dont want to spend the money for a reamer or spend the money to drive somewhere to have them done (i live up in bfe) i just thought that someone might know what partnumbers and brands i need to ask for or what vehicle to ask for since the parts stoors want to search by vehicle and if i go to the replaceable ends i have to use a right side end that has the hole in it for the drag link

i know i am talking in circles and maybe im not asking the question the correct way
i am trying to do this the best way without spending hundreds of dollars to do so and i figured that someone on here would have some sudjestions as how to do this...i am very limited onmoney at this time and need to get this done (make sense)??
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oh i plan on welding inserts in or have a friend of mine tap the rod so i can adjuste it...i would never weld it up so it cant be adjusted
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Ok so call RR and ask for customer service. Tell them you have that set up and want to get some ends localy cause it's on your DD.
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Ok so call RR and ask for customer service. Tell them you have that set up and want to get some ends localy cause it's on your DD.

Exactly. Just tell them it came on your Jeep when you bought it and you don;t know where to get the parts or what size they are. Ask them about the TRE with the drag link hole, since all the others are normal ones.
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