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Old March 22nd, 2008, 08:28 AM   #1
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Default Yamaha Rhino's Were is really legal to use these

I haven't found a direct answer in regards to these. Any info a plus

Can you use the on Michigan trails legally?
Do most off road parks let you run these in the quad areas or truck areas?
Can they really be street legal?

Maybe this should have gone in land use?????
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I know a guy making his street legal, just like making a dirt bike legal. The wall he ran into recently was small enough DOT approved tires that were still somewhat aggressive. He has put turn signals, mirrors and all that good stuff on it. Since the top speed is pretty low, it can only go on certain roads, I think he is limited to county roads, cant go on any "M" roads or highways or something like that.
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They are too wide to be legal for most ATV trails.
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I can't wait for someone to transplant a turbocharged Hayabusa engine into one of those and get caught on the streets doing 120...
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as it stands now I beleive the Rhino is 56" wide. so its not rated for 50" trail. the only side by side I know that comes in at this is the Kaw. 610 utv. they are 49" wide at the tires & chassie. the latest ones have fender extensions that put them at 51". but the wheel track is the same as the older ones.

Pilots & Oddessies are said to 50.5" inchs so depending on the tires its in or its out.
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sorry, I almost forgot.

ANY machines Legal as ORVs are legal in all the scramble areas & ORV Routes rated at 72". so thats about 700 miles or so you have to use. plus you can use them on the roads in Counties that are "open" to orv use.
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I know a guy making his street legal, just like making a dirt bike legal. The wall he ran into recently was small enough DOT approved tires that were still somewhat aggressive. He has put turn signals, mirrors and all that good stuff on it. Since the top speed is pretty low, it can only go on certain roads, I think he is limited to county roads, cant go on any "M" roads or highways or something like that.
While this may be a bit off-topic:
Any MSP Post that inspects and approves these size vehicles for legal street use in my opinion is irresponsible. An attorney could very well make a case that the owners be held responsible for accidents caused by these vehicles as they were not designed for public highways. Just because you have DOT tires does NOT make it safe. Braking systems, stability factors, windshield protection, all requirements of FMVSS standards. These vehicles are all woefully short of meeting any of these requirements.
As far a being 'limited to county roads'. I have never seen nor do any officers I know aware of any stipulation with the exception M/C under 125CC on Interstate highways.
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as it stands now I beleive the Rhino is 56" wide. so its not rated for 50" trail. the only side by side I know that comes in at this is the Kaw. 610 utv. they are 49" wide at the tires & chassie. the latest ones have fender extensions that put them at 51". but the wheel track is the same as the older ones.

Pilots & Oddessies are said to 50.5" inchs so depending on the tires its in or its out.
FYI The Polaris rzr's are 50". They were made that way to be able to go on the 50" and under trails. Although as soon as you put on different wheels and or spacers you are again not legal.
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While this may be a bit off-topic:
Any MSP Post that inspects and approves these size vehicles for legal street use in my opinion is irresponsible. An attorney could very well make a case that the owners be held responsible for accidents caused by these vehicles as they were not designed for public highways. Just because you have DOT tires does NOT make it safe. Braking systems, stability factors, windshield protection, all requirements of FMVSS standards. These vehicles are all woefully short of meeting any of these requirements.
As far a being 'limited to county roads'. I have never seen nor do any officers I know aware of any stipulation with the exception M/C under 125CC on Interstate highways.
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lets take this from another veiw.

if I was to take my Rhino or Razor and make it street legal why would it not be so in the eyes of the law?

it would have...
a title
Insurance
D.O.T. rated tires
windshield, & roof/rollbar
wipers
turn signals
and depending on the seat arangement seat belts and shoulder straps.

so at what point would ANY attorney look at this as not street legal?

I work in Chryslers Crash test lab. I do this stuff for a living. the only thing that prevents more vehicles from being brought in dirrectly as road vehicles are the production rules that applie "Currently" they are all subject to change and the only thing preventing that is how much your government would make off it if they made it legal.

AS for you and I, we have the ability to make ANYTHING road legal depending on the state its titled in. I fly a hovercraft down the road if its got lights & turnsignals and meets the criteria for the state.

as for you riding things with plates from other states..

Federal law says your intitled to. there is a standing agreement that ANY road legal vehicle can cross state bounderies no matter the configuration if it was titled by any secretary of state.

as for being safer then other vehicles on the road? try riding your 2 wheeled motorcycle and tell me you are any safer?
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While at the dunes last summer we ran accross 4 different Rhino's that were licenesed for the street.

One gentelman from Grand Rapids drives his to work wearing a suit and tie, in the summer of course.
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Old March 26th, 2008, 04:07 PM   #11
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lets take this from another veiw.

AS for you and I, we have the ability to make ANYTHING road legal depending on the state its titled in. I fly a hovercraft down the road if its got lights & turnsignals and meets the criteria for the state.
Not true, You can meet minimum braking distances spec'd in P.A.300
You're statement in red is the exact point I'm trying to make!

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as for you riding things with plates from other states.

Federal law says your intitled to. there is a standing agreement that ANY road legal vehicle can cross state bounderies no matter the configuration if it was titled by any secretary of state.
So what do you do with ATVs that are licensed in other states, I'll bet you wouldn't last 10 minutes on 14 mile with one. Va. and I think Minnesota plate these things.

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as for being safer then other vehicles on the road? try riding your 2 wheeled motorcycle and tell me you are any safer?
I'm not saying the driver isn't safe, he's not what I'm concerned about. What I am concerned with is being able to keep the vehicle under control with out hurting a bystander.
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Regardless of the vehilce, most of the modified rigs that we use are subject to the same potential legal issues.
You could wipe your ass with one ply paper in McDonalds then try to sue because your ass is chaffed because you ass is sensitive. OK enough ass talk.

I am not asking what could potentially be looked at as being a cause for a law suite because the answer to that is just BS as our legal system has many issues. I agrree there should be some control but ...........enough back to the topic.

So from what I read, yes these can be made street legal and driven down non highway roads.

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Rhinos & Razors are 50 inches a mule is 55 inches, each county has its own restrictions on what trails/seasonal roads/county rds you can go on.. check with that area that you plan to ride in, I know for a fact you can stay out of Otsego county.
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Can they be made road legal and plated yes. There are a couple companies that are selling kits to include everything needed including tires to do this.
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each county has its own restrictions on what trails/seasonal roads/county rds you can go on..
Each county has their own rules for ATV/snowmobiles on the shoulders, etc... each county does NOT have their own laws on what is considered a vehicle for road use.

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I know for a fact you can stay out of Otsego county.
If your ATV is deemed street legal by the state, it is acceptable anywhere in the state, not ruled county by county.
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Each county has their own rules for ATV/snowmobiles on the shoulders, etc... each county does NOT have their own laws on what is considered a vehicle for road use.



If your ATV is deemed street legal by the state, it is acceptable anywhere in the state, not ruled county by county.
Actually the county can set restrictions for there roads. How ever they can not apply the restrictions for federal or state owned roads. They can only apply to County owned roads.
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Actually the county can set restrictions for there roads. How ever they can not apply the restrictions for federal or state owned roads. They can only apply to County owned roads.

what restrictions can they control? I assumed only weight classifications... nothing that a plated passenger car or truck under 14K GVWR would have to worry about.
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Counties make there own ordinances for there roads as well as laws for there own roads. A county make a law more strict then a state or federal law. How ever they can not make it more lienent then a federal or state law.

County Roads are property of the County they are in.
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Can they be made road legal and plated yes. There are a couple companies that are selling kits to include everything needed including tires to do this.
I would be curious as to what companies you know of that offer these kits. There is nothing that I have found.

The biggest obstacle is finding tires that fit the application. There are 28" TSL's, down side to these is they weigh 11lbs each more than the stock ones. Aside from those I haven't found anything that has a good amount of tread that could be used for trail riding.


After much research, yes they can be made legal---plated by the state of michigan. That goes for the entie state. Under the 4 wheeled form used for the state, there is no stipulation written (that I've seen) that says you can only drive on certain roads in certain counties. As common sence would come into play--stay off highways. Stock top speed on these are only 40-42mph, after simple mods 55-65 can easily be achieved though.
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I have heard that you can put those orange triangle things on the back of them and they can be considered farm equipment and be driven on the side of the road?????????? This doesn't make then street legal but at least you can go down the road to the neighbors or so unlike a quad.

What I can't figure out is why once the snow falls you can drive snomobiles just about anywhere you want even down a paved road and right up to the gas pump if you want. You surely cannot do that with a quad, I got pulled over by the DNR on a seasonal only road and he said I cannot be riding anywhere but private property or designated ORV trails.
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