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Old March 15th, 2008, 10:21 PM   #21
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My parents own a gas station and our gas driver has said that once the diesel drivers have had enough they will start looking for clear kerosene (which we have) and they will start topping off with that since the price is lower.

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Old March 15th, 2008, 10:57 PM   #22
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ULSD costs more to make. Fuel oil and diesel come out of the same refineries. With the super cold winter, they had to use most of the refinery space this winter to produce fuel oil to keep up with heating needs. Add in the ever increasing demand in China. Add in the cost of winter additives. It is a combination of many different factors that all push the price up. Ultimately, it is the refinery capacity that is really killing us. There is plenty of oil to meet demand. We just can't refine enough of everything to keep the supply up and the price down.
I am deffinatly anxious for summer diesel prices
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Old March 15th, 2008, 10:58 PM   #23
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My parents own a gas station and our gas driver has said that once the diesel drivers have had enough they will start looking for clear kerosene (which we have) and they will start topping off with that since the price is lower.

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The fines for not paying road tax are a lot higher.
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Old March 16th, 2008, 09:53 AM   #24
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My parents own a gas station and our gas driver has said that once the diesel drivers have had enough they will start looking for clear kerosene (which we have) and they will start topping off with that since the price is lower.

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I've never seen kerosene prices lower than diesel. x2 hacksaws comment on the fines.
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Old March 16th, 2008, 10:02 AM   #25
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My parents own a gas station and our gas driver has said that once the diesel drivers have had enough they will start looking for clear kerosene (which we have) and they will start topping off with that since the price is lower.

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They won't find any clear kerosene. It is dyed by federal mandate.
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Old March 16th, 2008, 10:25 AM   #26
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Doesn't kero have less energy per gallon then #2? If so than kero will drop mpg reducing any savings.

I've been thinking about bagging the CTD for a while. These higher prices make it more tempting for sure.
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Old March 16th, 2008, 11:08 AM   #27
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Diesel would have to be over $4.50 per gallon with gas prices where they are right now for a 3/4 ton gas truck to start being cheaper to drive than my Cummins. Even then, it wouldn't be "better", just maybe cheaper. And I am not worrying about this because it jumps every year. It will go back down come summer. And that is when gas will be up.
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Old March 16th, 2008, 11:20 AM   #28
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Still waitting for all the Truckers to Grid Lock all the State Highways cus of the Prices..

like they did back in the day


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Old March 16th, 2008, 11:24 AM   #29
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I am deffinatly anxious for summer diesel prices
i dont remember prices really coming down last summer. that's what pisses me off. its seems to go up in winter and then never comes back down.
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Still waitting for all the Truckers to Grid Lock all the State Highways cus of the Prices..

like they did back in the day

thats another big concern right there. the higher cost of diesel means commodities are rising in cost.
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Old March 16th, 2008, 01:08 PM   #31
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Still waitting for all the Truckers to Grid Lock all the State Highways cus of the Prices..

like they did back in the day

Yes, I am so surprised they haven't done that yet (again).
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Yeah, brilliant. Let's have the truckers slow down and lock up the highways. Then we can pay $6+ per gallon if we can even get it. When are people going to figure out that prices for oil (fuel) are set on WALLSTREET, not by oil companies, gas stations, or even politicians (outside of taxes). Oil and its derivatives are commodities. They are traded on the open market. Buyers and sellers buy and sell futures and forward contracts, betting on future supply and demand fundamentals. Political instability oversea? Prices go up. Threat of a hurricane? Prices go up. A few weeks of calm in the Gulf (either one) and prices will trend down. Unfortunately, very few people outside of the industry have any clue how it actually works. They just think that some suit is sitting in Houston setting all the prices intentionally screwing up the economy.

People need to figure out that the traders at the hedge funds are driving prices more than any oil company could ever dream of.
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Old March 16th, 2008, 01:42 PM   #33
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My parents own a gas station and our gas driver has said that once the diesel drivers have had enough they will start looking for clear kerosene (which we have) and they will start topping off with that since the price is lower.

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Kerosene will run in a diesel but.... not that great... if its dilluted in diesel it would run much better then straight.... some guys running bio use kerosene to thin it out in the winter.....

bottom line here is our weak dollar and MANY different fuel blends across this country are hurting us - a lot...... however, we aren't paying as much as Europe or Austrailia....
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Old March 16th, 2008, 02:46 PM   #34
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Parked mine weeks ago running my Taco as a DD right now
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Old March 16th, 2008, 08:01 PM   #35
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Not to many gas dozers, loaders, and excavators. I guess I'm stuck.
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Old March 16th, 2008, 08:06 PM   #36
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I can't see going back to a gas tow rig. I can see moving up to a turbodiesel, but nothing that burns gas.
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Old March 16th, 2008, 08:32 PM   #37
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Well with a diesel engine,you can brew your own bio,or add a second tank&run SVO,or you can mix SVO with 30%kero,and put it in your tank,you can even fill up with filtered used tranny fluid!The first diesel engine ran on peanut oil!With a gas motor,you need gas,or an ethanol blend.
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I can't see going back to a gas tow rig. I can see moving up to a turbodiesel, but nothing that burns gas.
Phil,did you drag Herc home yet?
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