OMB I am convinced after reading your numerous posts over the last month (which all say the same thing over and over and over and over again) that you really have nothing to contribute to a meaningful conversation about our public lands. You continually attack the handful of people who put forth the time and effort to get involved. You fail to engage people in manner that promotes an exchange of ideas; instead you constantly bash everyone over the head with your opinion and your views, as though your way of thinking is the only correct way to look at a problem. If you don't like the way we do things, if you don't think the efforts we make are useful or if you don't see any value in our opinions, then please go find somewhere else to make your case. You are not winning any converts here, unless they are lurking and not participating in the conversation. Ironman and others have just quit responding to you because there is nothing to be gained by it. You make some valid points every once in a while, but it gets drowned out by the rhetoric and constant accusations, allegations, and innuendos.
Do you have a plan, a proposal, a course of action? Lay it out for us, tell us why you think it will work better than something that has been tried in the past, or maybe it is something that has been overlooked, or a new idea that needs to be fleshed out through an exchange of ideas. Until then, quit clogging up this forum and potentially scaring away someone new to the sport that may be interested in helping, or an experienced user of our public lands that is looking for a way to get more involved.