ok, it seems it was just thus pc, but hitman pro and avast boot time scans every fond anything.
did a full system clean with ccleaner seems to have gotten it.
thank the replies.
jaysusr - avast did have a big problem with their network driver causing slow boot times. however that was a couple of versions ago (and 2009-2010)
now days it one of the lightest on system resources, avg scan times, faster normal ops, top rated and ONLY FREE rated anti-virus apps out there.
Android seems a bit slow on older phone, but pc based is pretty darn good.
as of 2012 AVG or ad-aware will really slow you down.
Again, thanks for the input