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Old May 17th, 2012, 10:41 AM   #177
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Originally Posted by ScOoTeR View Post
Think of it this way:

There are many reasons for hate / fear / whatever, but let's focus on the issue of religion (with respect to Christianity), and apply some logic:

1. Christians have faith and believe in God.
2. The Bible and its interpretation (through self / church / family) is a large part of a Christian's "Instruction Manual" for life. (yes, incredibly generalized, but not meant to be insulting in any way)
3. Within the Bible, many things are written; two I will use in this explanation are:
a) The story of Sodom and Gomorrah, and the general "proof" that God has defined homosexuality as sin.
b) The Bible teaches the Christian that part of being a good Christian is to love others and share their knowledge of God with others, so that those other people may come to know God and his love.
4. Christians who speak out against homosexuality (in this logical example) are not casting judgement on homosexuality, but rather, speaking to their specific sin and trying to "help" gays stop sinning and find God.

Simple.

Now, what fucks everything up with this logic is that a lot of people fear what they don't understand. That fear can turn to hate, and that hate can hide behind many a facade - and a big one IS religion. This is not accusing *any* Christian of hate, rather, just pointing out one thing.

But wait - there's more!

Christians wouldn't seem so damned pushy and insistent if folks would back off a bit about Jesus being a zombie, the Bible being the best selling work of fiction, et. al. I know - a lot of responses are a function of giving what you get with some folks, but us "Non-Christians" could take some of our own advice and just calm the fukc down.

Anyway, that's how I feel.
Very well put for a non-believeing guy. There is hope for you yet Scooter

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Christians != Catholics.

And have you given any thought as to why there seems to be so much molestation among the priesthood? Care to read my theory?

First of all, not all priests molest / rape children: for every one we hear about, (though I'm sure there are more that are not caught) there are THOUSANDS who do NOT molest boys. But as a profession, it seems like there is more than their fare share, and the type of transgression is quite ironic. Or, is it?

Think of a young man, raised to know and love God: Upon reaching puberty, this young man finds he is attracted to other men and not at all interested in women. He knows in his heart how he feels, and he knows it is quite a sin in the lord's eyes. So, instead of sinning with other men, he makes a vow to the lord and becomes a priest. Perfect rationalization: "I can remain celibate and serve God - and maybe - he will grant me the strength to keep from sin."
So the priest grows older and lonelier, meanwhile, he has not lost strength and succumbed to his true feelings for other men. He is part of a church, knows and loves his "flock" and helps many in the community. Let's not forget, not for a moment, that a priest is still a man - and after many years of celibacy - starts the shenanigans among the some of the young boys he supervises, often alone.

This man's only failing to this point was being human and trying to the best he could not to sin and to serve God. It's very sad. This is not to say that some priests are dirtbags / predators intentionally maneuvering to molest kids, statistics tells us it must exist too. But to denounce all Catholic priests as child molesters is no better than the crap Fred Phelps spews whenever there is a chance.
Great piece. I do think that many priests that are striaght should be allowed to marry if they want.
Paul talks on this about serving the Lord but if one cannot control thier emotions then they need to marry a women. I will try and find that passage.
It is really wrong for priests to hide among the Catholic church to prey on young boys for thier own sadistic pleasure.
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