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Old August 9th, 2011, 03:37 PM   #20
I'm not old, honest...
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Originally Posted by brewmenn View Post
So we should ignore congresses part in this mess?
Look at ANY past presidency and tell me from memory who was vice president, speaker of the house, majority whip, etc, etc. The era of any president is that of the president and no one else. He said he was going to lead and he hasn't done it. Make any excuse you want............ he still is not a leader.
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