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Old June 22nd, 2006, 07:16 PM   #9
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Iraq is but the beginning, a pretense for a wider conflict. Donald Kagan, a
central member of PNAC, sees America establishing permanent military bases
in Iraq after the war. This is purportedly a measure to defend the peace in
the Middle East, and to make sure the oil flows. The nations in that
region, however, will see this for what it is: a jump-off point for
American forces to invade any nation in that region they choose to. The
Originally Posted by robrocketanski
American people, anxiously awaiting some sort of exit plan after America
defeats Iraq, will see too late that no exit is planned.
Thats common place. We still have active bases in south korea and germany 50 years after the fact. Nothing sinister about mantaining an honest invest of a major military base. For some reason liberals think you can start up a war machine like a fricken lawn mower, not so.

Originally Posted by robrocketanski
There will be adverse side effects. The siege mentality average Americans
are suffering as they smother behind yards of plastic sheeting and duct
tape will increase by orders of magnitude as our aggressions bring forth
new terrorist attacks against the homeland. These attacks will require the
implementation of the newly drafted Patriot Act II, an augmentation of the
previous Act that has profoundly sharper teeth. The sun will set on the
Constitution and Bill of Rights.

cough BS cough BS the terrorists are brain washed dirt farmers the foot soldiers atleast, or the higer ups are RELIGIOUS ZELAOTS who hate CRISTIANS it doesnt matter what are policy is, actually our DEMOCRACY makes it easier ... you dont see al quada taking a foot hold in China, any militiary dictatorships, or marxist nations, or highly christian catholic and UN pc countries like much of south america. Why do you think the al quada target us and say not CUBA, not venezula, not north korea. They wouldnt even be allowed to practice islam in most of those countries, they dont hate us for the reasons you think they do, they hate us cause we make it easy on them.

Originally Posted by robrocketanski
The American economy will be ravaged by the need for increased defense
spending, and by the aforementioned "constabulary" duties in Iraq,
Afghanistan and elsewhere. Former allies will turn on us. Germany, France
and the other nations resisting this Iraq war are fully aware of this game
plan. They are not acting out of cowardice or because they love Saddam
Hussein, but because they mean to resist this rising American empire, lest
they face economic and military serfdom at the hands of George W. Bush.
Richard Perle has already stated that France is no longer an American ally.
Nothing is more noble than giving money to third generation life long well fare recipiants, spending 40 grand per year on inmates, and wasteing money on bloated bureucracy. Spending money on defense especially proactive defense is a cardinal sin !!!! Hate to break it to you but we can afford it, if we could out spend the USSRwe can fight three or four piss ant coutries at the same time. Germany and france are double dipping sandbagers who want to play both sides for the benefit of their own miliatary infastructure, their own economy and will turn a blind eye to evil dictators if it keeps them in office. not out of noblility or some superior war savyness.

Originally Posted by robrocketanski
Many people, of course, will die. They will die from war and from want,
from famine and disease. At home, the social fabric will be torn in ways
that make the Reagan nightmares of crack addiction, homelessness and AIDS
seem tame by comparison.
communism killed 50 million people!!! get a clue how many military dictators are you losing sleep over in africa right now .... none ! why? cause you hate america and you hate capitalism and are a self loathing freeman and feel guilty. Hundreds of times more people will die from poor water, no food, and diseases eradicated in western democratic capitalist societies cause they are ass backwards living in the middle ages and have no spine to stand up (also cuase they have no guns to fight their oppressors which by your liberal spin i bet you love gun control .... gun control has doomed 10s of millions) I guarantee you any wars we fight not even a half million will die.

Originally Posted by robrocketanski
The People versus the Powerful is the oldest story in human history. At no
point in history have the Powerful wielded so much control
. At no point in
history has the active and informed involvement of the People, all of them,
been more absolutely required. The tide can be stopped, and the men who
desire empire by the sword can be thwarted. It has already begun, but it
must not cease. These are men of will, and they do not intend to fail.
uhhhh incorrect. First of all there are i belive 100 free democratic nations in the world right now. Compare to colonial and midevil times .... also gun ownership is the great equalizer.

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