^^No wonder you couldn't pull my ass out of that mudpit with the winch. Wasn't a WARN.
So I don't hijack the thread with my non-sense and ruin the chances of getting pulled out...I've heard just about all of the above. Only other thing I can add is the bolt's shipped with Smittybilt's are crap and rust within a week, so you'll need to go and buy a few grade 8's at ACE. Great for the occasional off roader.