Liked tellico a ton, harlan was fun, but, heh, the group I was with even there didn't want to run through some of the fun stuff and didn't even want me to run through can opener because they were worried on if I borke how they'd get me out
But I also enjoy trails in canada just as much, and brimy's comments could just as easily go for places like that, too.
I think its just hard to get people out of their comfort zone.
In general, though, this is why I scratched the buggy I had started this spring and am building a Jeep thats smaller than my old toyota. More fun with less vehicle.