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Originally Posted by ScOoTeR
Good for you and good for us for your involvement Pat.  I apologize for coming across harsh sometimes, I just get so damned tired of the DNR and our apparent inability to get together - there are an approximate 400,000 registered ORVees in the state - you think they would listen to us. 
If that is the way the law is written, how come side-by-side orvs over 50" are trying to get the trails widened?
Why does the state of michigan list wolverine and others as "Motorcycle" trails?
Why does the Michigan DNR seem to thrive on misinformation and vague laws?
Thanks for the invite - perhaps next time we go up I can shoot you a pm and we can enjoy some campfire discussions and some beer. Unless you're on a bike, we might not see you for long on the trail.  |
I thought about the bike/quad thing and came to the same conclusion, we wouldnt see each other for long
But I would take you up on the campfire deal any day.
The side by side guys want to widen the trails that are too narrow for them, but if they can fit down them they can ride on them (with an ORV sticker). Tomahawk used to be
24" and then it got wider as more quads started using it, the same might happen if more over 50" machines start riding it. I personally believe in a multi use trail system. Without it you have to give each individual machine type an equal share of the money and miles.
And to be honest with you, the CCC listed trails as "motorcycle only"
When the ORV program first got off the ground the mapping and most of the policy's were developed by the CCC. But back then the 2 wheelers were just about all there was for ORV's. And to be fair the CCC member clubs and long time 2 wheel riders built and or groomed those trails for years.
With changing times however, there needs to be some sort of balance found in ORV monies that get spent on the ground.
And I wish I had an answer for why Michigans DNR seems to thrive on their inability to make clear and concise laws, even their own officers have a hard time interpreting them.
I attended a land use conference in the UP a few years back. A few of us GLFWDA members went out to dinner with DNR employees from a couple other surrounding states and invited a couple of our own DNR folks. Our DNR declined and ended up at the same resturant as us, as we were seated our DNR employees got up and moved further away to another table. This started and interesting conversation about the MI DNR amongst our table.
It was amusing to say the least at what other departments from other states think about Michigans DNR. Needless to say our DNR is not thought of to highly amongst their peers.
May 5th, 2008, 10:02 AM
