What do you think about the president's speech?

[kerryann]

I came up with a great plan a few nights ago.

We keep illegal working immigrants, they have to earn their rights over the next ten years,and they have to learn to speak english to get their citizenship.

Now.. since we are keeping some of Mexico's citizens.. we can send them some of our own. Anyone on public assistance has two months to get off or they will be deported to mexico.

[C.K.]

Originally Posted by kerryann

Anyone on public assistance has two months to get off or they will be deported to mexico.

I like this part of the plan.

I missed the speech. How was it?

[jamiesann]

Originally Posted by kerryann

I came up with a great plan a few nights ago.

We keep illegal working immigrants, they have to earn their rights over the next ten years,and they have to learn to speak english to get their citizenship.

Now.. since we are keeping some of Mexico's citizens.. we can send them some of our own. Anyone on public assistance has two months to get off or they will be deported to mexico.

I heard on Drew and mike that guatamalans that sneak illegally into mexico face 8 years in prison. 8 years in a mexican prison is like a lifetime sentance in american prison, i would kill myself before serving 8 years in a mexican prison, i assume they dont have solitary or i would do somehting bad to get solitary. I assume they just beat the piss out of you.

With that being said, i think we need to throw illegals in a shit hole prison, they are not americans and do not have rights to be free of unusual punishment or any standards of cleanliness, good food etc.

We should build the ugliest shithole drab prison right on the border across from the most polluted mexican factory. Give them 8 years and make them work.

About the public assistance people. I want everyone on wellfare to have to submit to drug tests, and have an army of trash pickers, recyclers, street sweepers etc. With all the people not working in the 'hood it should not look like such crap with debri strewn everywhere. Get this army of couch patatoes picking up the freeways that sort of stuff. Zero complaints or your off the well fare. No lawsuits, no getting "hurt", no non sense, it should be run by military and all the people get treated like they are in the armed forces. I mean STRICT!!! Hardwork all day cleaning up the most foul disgusting parts of the hood or what ever community they live in.

2 months isnt enough for most of these people to find a job with god damn illeglas undermining them at everychance. Who would wash dishes 14 hours a day for less than minimum wage when they can get 15 grand no taxes on well fare. Get rid of the element that drives down wages. If some industries fail oh well. If strawberries and pears cost to much with out illegals ohh well. Someone better invent a picking device. I am so god damed sick of this illegal nonsense. I havent been this pissed since John Kerry was running for office and i had to hear all his spin.

also all the illegal we should tatto them. If they sneak in again and have a tat or scar there where they ground the tat off we shoot them.

We also need to have a gov dept devoted to recuiting illegals with fake jobs, when they show up for work and cant speak a lick of english and have no workers visa, we tat them, horse whip them, squirt them with lemon juice and push them off a speeding truck at the border.

Im gonna lose it if i hear the ILLEGALS aliens called "undocumented workers" our america hating liberla media is testing my last nerves.

[ScOoTeR]

I don't think I could say it any better than Jamie just put it.

[PavementPounder]

Originally Posted by jamiesann

Also all the illegal we should tatto them. If they sneak in again and have a tat or scar there where they ground the tat off we shoot them.

I like this, but the shooting part would not fly. If you determined that they had the tattoo, that would mean that you have already captured and have control of them. At that point it would be purely execution at close range.


I suggest giving every illegal caught a physical that includes a shot that is actually a sub-dermal radio tag. They will think they are getting an immunization. Then the cops could track them - like a LoJuan system.

[deuce228]

Originally Posted by PavementPounder

I like this, but the shooting part would not fly. If you determined that they had the tattoo, that would mean that you have already captured and have control of them. At that point it would be purely execution at close range.


I suggest giving every illegal caught a physical that includes a shot that is actually a sub-dermal radio tag. They will think they are getting an immunization. Then the cops could track them - like a LoJuan system.

If they are already caught then they give up any rights when recaptured again. The physical should go futher into sterilization also.

[jamiesann]

Thought more about it, we need to do something pretty harsh to both business owners and private individuals that dont want to hire a real business for work around the house (or atleast some out of work american).

There should be imbeded agents posing as day laborers at where ever they day laborers hang out, home depot, and construction areas. The agent gets picked up, doesn't speak english, as soon as he gets handed a tool or told what to do, he shakes off the dumb mexican act, and arrest's the "boss" or homeowner. Just like a prostitution sting. as soon as the person shows intent to have this illegal do work they committed a crime and are arrested, and vehicle siezed. Homeowners should get a fine of like $2,000 - $5,000 for hiring day laborers.

Since business can save hundreds of thousands per year not paying taxes on these guys( by savings in reduced wages, and no liability ins, workers comp, or health insurance the benefit is huge so the penalty cant be like some puny $4,000 fine). It should be mandatory like 2-3 months in jail for the business owner (his cost), and atleast double what it would cost to hire a american .... figure benefits and living wage of about 25 grand. Double that and add in benefits and taxes and i think the fine should be a MINIMUM of around $60-$70 grand for knowingly hiring illegals. Maybe even more for big companies like meat packers and corporate owned farms that can rationalize hiring illegals cause thy can shake off a $70,000 - $500,000 fine cause they make more money with illegals, and figure they will only get caught so often.

This whole situation is out of control. Worst part in my opinion is both parties are selling honest americans out for the sympathy votes of the hispanic community. This is truely the whoreing out of america, and shows politicans will do anything to stay in office. God forbid the legal americans want their god damned illegal cousins hector, ivan, pepe, fernando, to come here without so much as filing out a single piece of paper. Both parties can eat my taint. GO to hell bush grow some balls.

Lastly the can go to hell. They allways want to be the "fair and feel good police" they don't seem to care one bit about all the legal imigrants here that had to spend tens of thousands of dollars in fees to get here, and wait years and years. The totally turn a blind eye to that, but god forbid a black dude gets fired for anything, or a woman earns 10% less than a male counter part. Fuck all the legal immigrants, their real loyalty lays with destructive illegals, lets make sure we have water camps for them in the desert for them also . America is going to hell in a handbasket.

[FrankNBrew]

I would hate to see Pedro Sanchez deported. He's nice.

[Sandals]

Jamie is 100% on with my thoughts and feelings on this subject. I couldn't say it any better, this is how it should be.

Shoot you sneak into an eastern block country your shot on the spot, no jail, just dead.

[andy]

Why don't we just make the U.S. and mexico border a mine field. We have loads of surplus ordanance.
When I was watching the news about this they interviewed a guy who said he has beenhere for 4 years illegally..........Arrest his ass and ship it home. During the protest they were all gathered in one area how easy for a napalm run

[jamiesann]

Originally Posted by andy

Why don't we just make the U.S. and mexico border a mine field. We have loads of surplus ordanance.
When I was watching the news about this they interviewed a guy who said he has beenhere for 4 years illegally..........Arrest his ass and ship it home. During the protest they were all gathered in one area how easy for a napalm run

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i like the way you think. I said that in another post. large fence with tons of razor wire, and monitored by camers and infa reds, then a quarter mile of mine field and another fence. When the camera were triggered we would send out drone airplanes with tear gas and weapon sysytems and shoot them up. I think we really need to look to what other countries do to illegals, how poorly they are treated when they are caught, how few services they get (heck look at what LEGAL immigants in other countires get in terms of goverment assisstance when the dont speak the language) and we really need to do what ever the most savage nation does. We are far and away the most desirable place to sneak into and the american mexican boder has the greatest difference in economy of any border in the world. We have to really really step it up and stop pussy footing around. Heck we need at the bar minimum to adopt the mexican standards for punishment which is 8 years in prison. with millions of illegals thats to costly, not an option cause to many mexicans want in, and anything cheap the sissies of america will say is "unjust" never mind they are here illegally ... like they deserve just.

[revho]

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[andy]

Originally Posted by jamiesann

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i like the way you think. I said that in another post. large fence with tons of razor wire, and monitored by camers and infa reds, then a quarter mile of mine field and another fence. When the camera were triggered we would send out drone airplanes with tear gas and weapon sysytems and shoot them up. I think we really need to look to what other countries do to illegals, how poorly they are treated when they are caught, how few services they get (heck look at what LEGAL immigants in other countires get in terms of goverment assisstance when the dont speak the language) and we really need to do what ever the most savage nation does. We are far and away the most desirable place to sneak into and the american mexican boder has the greatest difference in economy of any border in the world. We have to really really step it up and stop pussy footing around. Heck we need at the bar minimum to adopt the mexican standards for punishment which is 8 years in prison. with millions of illegals thats to costly, not an option cause to many mexicans want in, and anything cheap the sissies of america will say is "unjust" never mind they are here illegally ... like they deserve just.

AMEN...........